# Accident 19790910041131A: Grumav S2F, Ramona, CA, September 10, 1979

- Type: FAA accident report (Accident/Incident Data System), as reported
- Date: September 10, 1979, 17:58 local time
- Place: Ramona, CA
- Airport: Ramona
- Damage: Substantial damage
- Collision: Midair collision, first aircraft
- Phase of flight: In Traffic Pattern-Circling
- Operating rules: General operating rules (Part 91)
- Location: 33.0392° N, 116.9153° W: Placed by OpenAirDocs at RAMONA (RNM), within about a mile (OpenAirDocs)
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=33.0392&lon=-116.9153&mi=10
- Aircraft: N405DF, a cancelled registration (https://openairdocs.org/deregistered/N405DF-1998-07-14) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry model: Grumman S2F-1 (TS-2A) (registry code 3951102, https://openairdocs.org/model/grumman-s2f-1-ts-2a) (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: GRUMAV S2F
- Fatal injuries: 0
- Pilot flight hours: 9,000 total, 775 in this make and model, 200 in the last 90 days
- NTSB investigation: [NTSB LAX79FA079](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/LAX79FA079) (OpenAirDocs)
- FAA source: FAA Aviation Safety Information Portal (https://asip.faa.gov/)
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/incident/19790910041131A

## Narrative

As the FAA filed it, in capitals; the FAA replaces private details with ^PRIVACY DATA OMITTED^.

OVERTOOK SMALL AIRPLANE ON DOWNWIND. SMALL PLANE MADE BASE LEG TURN IN FRONT OF HIM. NOT SEEN UNTIL LAST SECONDS.

## Other aircraft in the event

- N2440D, Piper PA38112: [Accident 19790910041132A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/19790910041132A)

## The NTSB's investigation of this event (1)

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

- [NTSB LAX79FA079](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/LAX79FA079), Sep 10, 1979: Grumman TS-2A (N405DF), Ramona, CA, substantial damage, 1 fatal

From the FAA Accident/Incident Data System. Reports are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model. For accidents, the NTSB's own investigation is the fuller record.

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