# Accident 19811105071749A: Piper PA23250, Niles, OH, November 5, 1981

- Type: FAA accident report (Accident/Incident Data System), as reported
- Date: November 5, 1981, 10:29 local time
- Place: Niles, OH
- Damage: Destroyed
- Phase of flight: Fcd/Prec Ldg From Cruise
- Operating rules: General operating rules (Part 91)
- Location: 41.1878° N, 80.7531° W: Placed by OpenAirDocs: center of Niles, OH, within about 6 miles (OpenAirDocs)
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=41.1878&lon=-80.7531&mi=10
- Aircraft: N2457M, a cancelled registration (https://openairdocs.org/deregistered/N2457M-1983-01-17) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry model: Piper PA-23-250 (registry code 7102308, https://openairdocs.org/model/piper-pa-23-250) (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: PIPER PA23250
- Reported engine: LYC TIO540C1A
- Fatal injuries: 0
- Pilot flight hours: 4,584 total, 67 in this make and model, 69 in the last 90 days
- NTSB investigation: [NTSB CHI82FA011](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/CHI82FA011) (OpenAirDocs)
- FAA source: FAA Aviation Safety Information Portal (https://asip.faa.gov/)
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/incident/19811105071749A

## Narrative

As the FAA filed it, in capitals; the FAA replaces private details with ^PRIVACY DATA OMITTED^.

LOST BOTH ENGINES DURING IFR VECTORS TO AIRPORT. CRASH-LANDED ON A MALL ROOF. NO CAUSE FOR PROBLEM FOUND.

## The NTSB's investigation of this event (1)

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

- [NTSB CHI82FA011](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/CHI82FA011), Nov 5, 1981: Piper PA-23 (N2457M), Niles, OH, destroyed

From the FAA Accident/Incident Data System. Reports are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model. For accidents, the NTSB's own investigation is the fuller record.

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