# Accident 19831109056709A: Piper PA23250, West Seneca, NY, November 9, 1983

- Type: FAA accident report (Accident/Incident Data System), as reported
- Date: November 9, 1983, 08:30 local time
- Place: West Seneca, NY
- Airport: Buffalo
- Damage: Destroyed
- Phase of flight: Final Approach
- Operating rules: General operating rules (Part 91)
- Location: 42.8396° N, 78.7499° W: From the FAA, an estimate near the named town, within about 3 miles
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=42.8396&lon=-78.7499&mi=10
- Aircraft: N4708P, a cancelled registration (https://openairdocs.org/deregistered/N4708P-2013-04-18) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry model: Piper PA-23-250 (registry code 7102308, https://openairdocs.org/model/piper-pa-23-250) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry engine: Lycoming 0-540 series (registry code 41532, https://openairdocs.org/engine/lycoming-0-540-series) (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: PIPER PA23250
- Reported engine: LYC O540A1A
- Fatal injuries: 0
- Pilot flight hours: 375 total, 50 in this make and model, 5 in the last 90 days
- NTSB investigation: [NTSB NYC84FA024](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/NYC84FA024) (OpenAirDocs)
- FAA source: FAA Aviation Safety Information Portal (https://asip.faa.gov/)
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/incident/19831109056709A

## Narrative

As the FAA filed it, in capitals; the FAA replaces private details with ^PRIVACY DATA OMITTED^.

AIRCRAFT STALLED AND CRASHED AS LANDING GEAR WAS LOWERED FOR LANDING. AIRCRAFT HAD APPARENT ENGINE PROBLEM.

## The NTSB's investigation of this event (1)

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

- [NTSB NYC84FA024](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/NYC84FA024), Nov 9, 1983: Piper PA-23-250 (N4708P), West Seneca, NY, destroyed, 1 fatal

## Other reports on N4708P (1)

Matched to the same aircraft by N-number and date.

- [Incident 19810818072119I](https://openairdocs.org/incident/19810818072119I), Aug 18, 1981: Piper PA23250 (N4708P), St George, SC, Minor damage. Zd pilot overshot landing.

From the FAA Accident/Incident Data System. Reports are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model. For accidents, the NTSB's own investigation is the fuller record.

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