# Accident 19831127058701A: Piper PA23160, Silver Creek, NY, November 27, 1983

- Type: FAA accident report (Accident/Incident Data System), as reported
- Date: November 27, 1983, 15:20 local time
- Place: Silver Creek, NY
- Airport: Dunkirk
- Damage: Destroyed
- Collision: Midair collision, first aircraft
- Phase of flight: Practice Training Manuevers
- Operating rules: General operating rules (Part 91)
- Location: 42.5399° N, 79.1592° W: From the FAA, an estimate near the named town, within about 3 miles
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=42.5399&lon=-79.1592&mi=10
- Aircraft: N4089P (not matched to a registry record)
- Reported make and model: PIPER PA23160
- Reported engine: LYC O320B3B
- Fatal injuries: 0
- Pilot flight hours: 3,550 total, 900 in this make and model, 0 in the last 90 days
- NTSB investigation: [NTSB NYC84FA038](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/NYC84FA038) (OpenAirDocs)
- FAA source: FAA Aviation Safety Information Portal (https://asip.faa.gov/)
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/incident/19831127058701A

## Narrative

As the FAA filed it, in capitals; the FAA replaces private details with ^PRIVACY DATA OMITTED^.

DURING DESCENT TO VOR CONVERGED AND STRUCK THE WING OF A 172 N96268 CAUSING BOTH TO CRASH. PILOT UNDER IFR HOOD.

## Other aircraft in the event

- N96268, Cessna 172P: [Accident 19831127058702A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/19831127058702A)

## The NTSB's investigation of this event (1)

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

- [NTSB NYC84FA038](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/NYC84FA038), Nov 27, 1983: Piper PA-23-160 (N4089P), Silver Greek, NY, destroyed, 4 fatal

From the FAA Accident/Incident Data System. Reports are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model. For accidents, the NTSB's own investigation is the fuller record.

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