# Accident 19850616025829A: Piper PA28181, Apple Valley, CA, June 16, 1985

- Type: FAA accident report (Accident/Incident Data System), as reported
- Date: June 16, 1985, 18:20 local time
- Place: Apple Valley, CA
- Airport: Apple Valley
- Damage: Substantial damage
- Phase of flight: Forced Landing
- Operating rules: General operating rules (Part 91)
- Location: 34.5696° N, 117.1497° W: From the FAA, an estimate near the named town, within about 3 miles
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=34.5696&lon=-117.1497&mi=10
- Aircraft: N4382N, a cancelled registration (https://openairdocs.org/deregistered/N4382N-2020-05-01) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry model: Piper PA-28-181 (registry code 7102807, https://openairdocs.org/model/piper-pa-28-181) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry engine: Lycoming O&VO-360 series (registry code 41514, https://openairdocs.org/engine/lycoming-o-vo-360-series) (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: PIPER PA28181
- Reported engine: LYC O360A4M
- People aboard: 3
- Fatal injuries: 0
- Pilot flight hours: 152 total, 6 in this make and model, 7 in the last 90 days
- NTSB investigation: [NTSB LAX85LA279](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/LAX85LA279) (OpenAirDocs)
- FAA source: FAA Aviation Safety Information Portal (https://asip.faa.gov/)
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/incident/19850616025829A

## Narrative

As the FAA filed it, in capitals; the FAA replaces private details with ^PRIVACY DATA OMITTED^.

ENGINE FAILED DUE TO FUEL EXHAUSTION ON FINAL. LANDED SHORT OF RUNWAY.

## The NTSB's investigation of this event (1)

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

- [NTSB LAX85LA279](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/LAX85LA279), Jun 17, 1985: Piper PA-28-181 (N4382N), Apple Valley, CA, substantial damage

## Other reports on N4382N (1)

Matched to the same aircraft by N-number and date.

- [Incident 19960220006449I](https://openairdocs.org/incident/19960220006449I), Feb 20, 1996: Piper PA28181 (N4382N), Tampa, FL. Narrative: while 5 east of Peter o'Knight, Tampa approach asked the pilot if he saw the airport. Peter o'Knight and the pilot affirmed that he did.…

From the FAA Accident/Incident Data System. Reports are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model. For accidents, the NTSB's own investigation is the fuller record.

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