# Accident 19851110072852A: Piper PA28181, Teterboro, NJ, November 10, 1985

- Type: FAA accident report (Accident/Incident Data System), as reported
- Date: November 10, 1985, 17:22 local time
- Place: Teterboro, NJ
- Airport: Teterboro
- Damage: Destroyed
- Collision: Midair collision, second aircraft
- Phase of flight: Normal Cruise
- Operating rules: General operating rules (Part 91)
- Location: 40.7963° N, 73.9969° W: Placed by OpenAirDocs from the FAA’s distance and direction from , within about a mile (OpenAirDocs)
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=40.7963&lon=-73.9969&mi=10
- Aircraft: N1977H (not matched to a registry record)
- Reported make and model: PIPER PA28181
- Reported engine: LYC O360A4M
- People aboard: 2
- Fatal injuries: 2
- Pilot flight hours: 269 total, 92 in this make and model, 0 in the last 90 days
- NTSB investigation: [NTSB DCA86AA004](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/DCA86AA004) (OpenAirDocs)
- FAA source: FAA Aviation Safety Information Portal (https://asip.faa.gov/)
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/incident/19851110072852A

## Narrative

As the FAA filed it, in capitals; the FAA replaces private details with ^PRIVACY DATA OMITTED^.

POSITION LIGHTS WERE OFF WHEN THE PLANE WAS HIT BY N784B AT NIGHT. A BREAKDOWN OF ATC PROCEDURES CAUSED CONFLICT.

## Other aircraft in the event

- N784B, Amd FALCON50MYST: [Accident 19851110072851A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/19851110072851A)

## The NTSB's investigation of this event (1)

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

- [NTSB DCA86AA004](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/DCA86AA004), Nov 10, 1985: Piper PA-28-181 (N1977H), Fairview, NJ, destroyed, 6 fatal

From the FAA Accident/Incident Data System. Reports are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model. For accidents, the NTSB's own investigation is the fuller record.

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