# Accident 19900701022981A: Piper PA38112, Florence, AL, July 1, 1990

- Type: FAA accident report (Accident/Incident Data System), as reported
- Date: July 1, 1990, 17:23 local time
- Place: Florence, AL
- Damage: Destroyed
- Collision: Midair collision, first aircraft
- Phase of flight: Formation Flying
- Operating rules: General operating rules (Part 91)
- Location: 34.8204° N, 87.6594° W: From the FAA, an estimate near the named town, within about 3 miles
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=34.8204&lon=-87.6594&mi=10
- Aircraft: N2409K, a cancelled registration (https://openairdocs.org/deregistered/N2409K-1991-05-13) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry model: Piper PA-38-112 (registry code 7103812, https://openairdocs.org/model/piper-pa-38-112) (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: PIPER PA38112
- Reported engine: LYC O235L2C
- People aboard: 2
- Fatal injuries: 2
- Pilot flight hours: 118 total, 5 in this make and model, 86 in the last 90 days
- NTSB investigation: [NTSB ATL90FA139](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/ATL90FA139) (OpenAirDocs)
- FAA source: FAA Aviation Safety Information Portal (https://asip.faa.gov/)
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/incident/19900701022981A

## Narrative

As the FAA filed it, in capitals; the FAA replaces private details with ^PRIVACY DATA OMITTED^.

WHILE FLYING IN UNAUTHORIZED FORMATION COLLIDED WITH N2437K THAT WAS CHANGING POSITION. IMPACT SEVERED EMPANNEGE.

## Other aircraft in the event

- N2437K, Piper PA38112: [Accident 19900701022982A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/19900701022982A)

## The NTSB's investigation of this event (1)

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

- [NTSB ATL90FA139](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/ATL90FA139), Jul 1, 1990: Piper PA-38-112 (N2409K), Florence, AL, destroyed, 4 fatal. Probable cause: FAILURE OF THE PILOT-IN-COMMAND OF N2409K TO MAINTAIN SAFE SEPARATION FROM N2437K DURING UNAUTHORIZED FORMATION MANEUVERING. OVERCONFIDENCE IN PERSONAL ABILITY AND THE EXECUTION OF UNAUTHORIZED…

## Other reports on N2409K (1)

Matched to the same aircraft by N-number and date.

- [Incident 19870402024159I](https://openairdocs.org/incident/19870402024159I), Apr 2, 1987: Piper PA38112 (N2409K), Venice, FL, Minor damage. Solo student ballooned twice on landing. The propeller struck the runway.

From the FAA Accident/Incident Data System. Reports are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model. For accidents, the NTSB's own investigation is the fuller record.

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