# Accident 19900724028329A: Piper PA38112, Chicago/Aurora, IL, July 24, 1990

- Type: FAA accident report (Accident/Incident Data System), as reported
- Date: July 24, 1990, 19:36 local time
- Place: Chicago/Aurora, IL
- Airport: Aurora Municipal Airport
- Damage: Destroyed
- Phase of flight: Practice Training Manuevers
- Operating rules: General operating rules (Part 91)
- Operator: CGFA
- Location: 41.7605° N, 88.6402° W: From the FAA, an estimate near the named town, within about 3 miles
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=41.7605&lon=-88.6402&mi=10
- Aircraft: N2508D, a cancelled registration (https://openairdocs.org/deregistered/N2508D-2012-08-21) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry model: Piper PA-38-112 (registry code 7103812, https://openairdocs.org/model/piper-pa-38-112) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry engine: Lycoming 0-235 series (registry code 41505, https://openairdocs.org/engine/lycoming-0-235-series) (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: PIPER PA38112
- Reported engine: LYC O235L2C
- People aboard: 2
- Fatal injuries: 2
- Pilot flight hours: 990 total, 8 in this make and model, 135 in the last 90 days
- NTSB investigation: [NTSB CHI90FA193](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/CHI90FA193) (OpenAirDocs)
- FAA source: FAA Aviation Safety Information Portal (https://asip.faa.gov/)
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/incident/19900724028329A

## Narrative

As the FAA filed it, in capitals; the FAA replaces private details with ^PRIVACY DATA OMITTED^.

OBSERVED SPINNING TO IMPACT. OVER GROSS. FULL FLAPS FULL UP. TRIM FUEL UNPORTED.

## The NTSB's investigation of this event (1)

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

- [NTSB CHI90FA193](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/CHI90FA193), Jul 25, 1990: Piper PA-38 (N2508D), Hinckley, IL, destroyed, 2 fatal. Probable cause: THE INSTRUCTOR PILOT'S INABILITY TO RECOVER FROM A STALL/SPIN. FACTORS WERE: ACFT WT & BALANCE EXCEEDED, AND THE INSTRUCTOR'S AND STUDENT PILOT'S LACK OF FAMILIARITY WITH ACFT.

From the FAA Accident/Incident Data System. Reports are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model. For accidents, the NTSB's own investigation is the fuller record.

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