# Accident 19971024047849A: Piper PA34220T, Philadelphia, PA, October 24, 1997

- Type: FAA accident report (Accident/Incident Data System), as reported
- Date: October 24, 1997, 15:50 local time
- Place: Philadelphia, PA
- Damage: Substantial damage
- Operating rules: General operating rules (Part 91)
- Location: 40.0705° N, 74.9993° W: From the FAA, an estimate near the named town, within about 3 miles
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=40.0705&lon=-74.9993&mi=10
- Aircraft: N8371H, a cancelled registration (https://openairdocs.org/deregistered/N8371H-1999-01-26) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry model: Piper PA-34-220T (registry code 7103420, https://openairdocs.org/model/piper-pa-34-220t) (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: PIPER PA34220T
- NTSB investigation: [NTSB NYC98LA019](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/NYC98LA019) (OpenAirDocs)
- FAA source: FAA Aviation Safety Information Portal (https://asip.faa.gov/)
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/incident/19971024047849A

## Narrative

As the FAA filed it, in capitals; the FAA replaces private details with ^PRIVACY DATA OMITTED^.

(-16) THE PILOT STATED THAT WHEN THE AIRCRAFT WAS ON TAKE-OFF ROLL FROM PHILADELPHIA NORTHEAST AIRPORT RUNWAY 33 EXTRA EFFORT WAS REQUIRED ON THE ELEVATORS FOR LIFT OFF. THE AIRCRAFT LIFTED OFF THE GROUND MOMENTARILY THEN RETURNED TO THE RUNWAY AND THEN STARTED TO PORPOISE BADLY SEVERAL TIMES BEFORE THE LANDING GEAR COLLAPSED. THIS INSPECTOR'S INVESTIGATION REVEALED THE AIRCRAFT STRUCK THE RUNWAY SURFACE AT 2,800 FEET FROM RUNWAY 33 AND AT THAT POINT THE NOSE GEAR COLLAPSED AND BOTH PROPELLERS STRUCK THE RUNWAY SURFACE. THE NEXT CONTACT WAS MADE AT 3,500 FEET FROM RUNWAY 33, AT THIS POINT THE RIGHT LANDING GEAR SHEARED OFF AND BOTH PROPELLERS STRUCK THE RUNWAY SURFACE AGAIN. THE AIRCRAFT MADE A COMPLETE STOP AT APPROXIMATELY 4,000 FEET FROM RUNWAY 33. THE AIRCRAFT RECEIVED SUBSTANTIAL DAMAGE. LEFT AND RIGHT FUEL TANKS WERE FULL. THE PROPELLER DAMAGE INDICATES THE ENGINES WERE RUNNING AT IMPACT. ALL FLIGHT CONTROLS WERE CHECKED NORMAL TRAVEL. ELEVATOR TRIM TAB WAS CHECKED NORMAL TRAVEL. NOTE: AT THE TIME OF THE ACCIDENT THE TRIM TAB WAS IN THE ZERO POSITION IN THE COCKPIT. ON THE EXTERNAL WALK AROUND THE TRIM TAB WAS LEVEL WITH THE HORIZONTAL STABILIZER. THE AIRCRAFT WEIGHT AND BALANCE WAS CHECKED-ONE PILOT, NO PASSENGERS AND NO CARGO AND THE AIRCRAFT HAD A FULL LOAD OF FUEL. PNE TOWER PROVIDED ASOS WEATHER FOR 10-24-97 AT 19:51Z. NOTE: ^PRIVACY DATA OMITTED^ THIS ACCIDENT INVESTIGATION IS CONSIDERED CLOSED.

## The NTSB's investigation of this event (1)

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

- [NTSB NYC98LA019](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/NYC98LA019), Oct 24, 1997: Piper PA-34-220T (N8371H), Philadelphia, PA, substantial damage. Probable cause: the pilot's failure to check the elevator trim prior to takeoff, and his failure to retard the power in a timely manner after touchdown.

## Other reports on N8371H (2)

Matched to the same aircraft by N-number and date.

- [Accident 19920820032779A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/19920820032779A), Aug 20, 1992: Piper PA34220T (N8371H), Bedford, MA, Substantial damage. Bounced and porpoised many times on runway landing. Last porpoise pitched up nose high came down nose first.
- [Accident 19890916035189A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/19890916035189A), Sep 16, 1989: Piper PA34220T (N8371H), Ft Myers, FL, Substantial damage. Bounced and porpoised on landing. Ruptured nose collapsed left gear.

From the FAA Accident/Incident Data System. Reports are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model. For accidents, the NTSB's own investigation is the fuller record.

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