# Accident 19971104031759A: Piper PA38112, Madison, WI, November 4, 1997

- Type: FAA accident report (Accident/Incident Data System), as reported
- Date: November 4, 1997, 18:30 local time
- Place: Madison, WI
- Airport: Dane Co Regional-Truax Field
- Damage: Substantial damage
- Phase of flight: Practice Training Manuevers
- Operating rules: General operating rules (Part 91)
- Location: 43.0997° N, 89.3099° W: From the FAA, an estimate near the named town, within about 3 miles
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=43.0997&lon=-89.3099&mi=10
- Aircraft: N2536N, a cancelled registration (https://openairdocs.org/deregistered/N2536N-2012-08-30) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry model: Piper PA-38-112 (registry code 7103812, https://openairdocs.org/model/piper-pa-38-112) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry engine: Lycoming 0-235 series (registry code 41505, https://openairdocs.org/engine/lycoming-0-235-series) (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: PIPER PA38112
- Reported engine: LYC O235L2C
- People aboard: 2
- Fatal injuries: 0
- Pilot flight hours: 667 total, 24 in this make and model, 54 in the last 90 days
- NTSB investigation: [NTSB CHI98LA030](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/CHI98LA030) (OpenAirDocs)
- FAA source: FAA Aviation Safety Information Portal (https://asip.faa.gov/)
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/incident/19971104031759A

## Narrative

As the FAA filed it, in capitals; the FAA replaces private details with ^PRIVACY DATA OMITTED^.

ACFT RAN OFF THE RWY ON LANDING, RIGHT WINGSTRUCK A RWY LIGHT, MADISON, WI.(.4)THE INSTRUCTOR (CFI) HAD THE STUDENT FLY THE AIRPLANE DOWN THE RUNWAY IN GROUND EFFECT WITH FULL FLAPS. THE CFI THEN RAISED THE FLAPS TO THE FIRST NOTCH, AT WHICH TIME, HE BECAME DISTRACTED. HE REPORTED THAT BY THE TIME HIS ATTENTION RETURNED TO THE AIRPLANE, IT HAD VEERED TO THE LEFT SIDE OF THE RUNWAY. ACCORDING TO THE CFI, THEY WERE TOO SLOW TO FLY OUT OF GROUND EFFECT, SO FULL POWER WAS ADDED IN AN ATTEMPT TO RECOVER. THE RIGHT WING THEN CONTACTED A RUNWAY LIGHT OFF THE LEFT SIDE OF THE RUNWAY.                 (-23) PIPER PA-38-112, N2536N WAS INVOLVED IN A DUAL NIGHT INSTRUCTIONAL FLIGHT AT MADISON, WI, CONDUCTING TRAFFIC PATTERN OPERATIONS. AFTER COMPLETION OF A TOUCH AND GO THE AIRCRAFT WAS FLOWN IN GROUND EFFECT FOR A PERIOD OF TIME WHILE THE AIRCRAFT FLAP CONFIGURATION WAS CHANGED.  DURING THIS PERIOD THE AIRCRAFT DRIFTED LEFT OF THE RUNWAY. WHILE ATTEMPTING TO RETURN THE AIRCRAFT TO THE RUNWAY THE RIGHT WING TIP STRUCK A RUNWAY LIGHT. THE OUTBOARD 12"-18" OF THE RIGHT WING WAS SUBSTANTIALLY DAMAGED.  NEITHER THE INSTRUCTOR PILOT NOR THE STUDENT PILOT WERE INJURED.

## The NTSB's investigation of this event (1)

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

- [NTSB CHI98LA030](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/CHI98LA030), Nov 5, 1997: Piper PA-38 (N2536N), Madison, WI, substantial damage. Probable cause: the flight instructor's (CFI's) inadequate supervision of the flight, and his failure to ensure that control of the airplane was maintained. Factors associated with the accident were: the CFI's…

From the FAA Accident/Incident Data System. Reports are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model. For accidents, the NTSB's own investigation is the fuller record.

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