# Accident 19971122034239A: Robsin R22BETA, Long Beach, CA, November 22, 1997

- Type: FAA accident report (Accident/Incident Data System), as reported
- Date: November 22, 1997, 09:36 local time
- Place: Long Beach, CA
- Airport: Long Beach - Daugherty Field
- Damage: Substantial damage
- Phase of flight: Autorot Descent (Rotorcraft)
- Operating rules: General operating rules (Part 91)
- Operator: OBNL
- Location: 33.8092° N, 118.1792° W: From the FAA, an estimate near the named town, within about 3 miles
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=33.8092&lon=-118.1792&mi=10
- Aircraft: N45SG, a cancelled registration (https://openairdocs.org/deregistered/N45SG-2015-05-15) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry model: Robinson Helicopter R22 BETA (registry code 7640110, https://openairdocs.org/model/robinson-helicopter-r22-beta) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry engine: Lycoming 0-320 series (registry code 41508, https://openairdocs.org/engine/lycoming-0-320-series) (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: ROBSIN R22BETA
- Reported engine: LYC O320B2C
- People aboard: 2
- Fatal injuries: 0
- Pilot flight hours: 2,610 total, 2,255 in this make and model, 50 in the last 90 days
- NTSB investigation: [NTSB LAX98LA042](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/LAX98LA042) (OpenAirDocs)
- FAA source: FAA Aviation Safety Information Portal (https://asip.faa.gov/)
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/incident/19971122034239A

## Narrative

As the FAA filed it, in capitals; the FAA replaces private details with ^PRIVACY DATA OMITTED^.

ACFT TIPPED OVER ON ITS SIDE ON LANDING. LONG BEACH, CA (.4)DURING THE AUTOROTATION, THE STUDENT ALLOWED THE AIRCRAFT TO DESCEND LOWER THAN HE HAD PREVIOUSLY AND WAS INSTRUCTED TO INCREASE HIS FLARE.  THE STUDENT SAID HE BELIEVED THIS NOW MEANT THAT THEY WOULD BE EXECUTING A FULL TOUCHDOWN AUTOROTATION; HOWEVER, HE DID NOT CONFIRM THIS WITH THE INSTRUCTOR.  AS HE LEVELED THE AIRCRAFT A SINK RATE DEVELOPED. THE INSTRUCTOR REACHED FOR THE CONTROLS TO REAPPLY THROTTLE BUT DID NOT ANNOUNCE HIS INTENTION.  THE STUDENT HELD THE THROTTLE AT IDLE AND PULLED PITCH DELAYING THE INSTRUCTOR'S EFFORTS WITH HIS TIGHT GRIP ON THE CONTROLS.  THE AIRCRAFT FELL THOUGH, LANDING HARD ON THE LEFT SKID.  THE AIRCRAFT BOUNCED AND ROLLED ONTO ITS LEFT SIDE.  THE INSTRUCTOR HAD NOT BRIEFED THE STUDENT ON THE PERFORMANCE STANDARDS BEFORE EXECUTING THE MANEUVER, NOR HAD HE ANNOUNCED THE METHOD TO BE USED FOR A POSITIVE TRANSFER OF CONTROLS.  THE STUDENT DID NOT VERIFY THE INSTRUCTOR'S PERFORMANCE STANDARDS, RECOGNIZE THE EXCESSIVE RATE OF DESCENT, OR RELINQUISH CONTROL OF THE THROTTLE.

## The NTSB's investigation of this event (1)

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

- [NTSB LAX98LA042](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/LAX98LA042), Nov 22, 1997: Robinson R22 Beta (N45SG), Long Beach, CA, substantial damage. Probable cause: the flight instructor's failure to thoroughly brief his student on the performance standards of the proposed autorotation and the method to be used for a positive transfer of controls. The student's…

From the FAA Accident/Incident Data System. Reports are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model. For accidents, the NTSB's own investigation is the fuller record.

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