# Incident 19971215042969I: Piper PA44180, Mobile, AL, December 15, 1997

- Type: FAA incident report (Accident/Incident Data System), as reported
- Date: December 15, 1997, 11:00 local time
- Place: Mobile, AL
- Airport: Brookley
- Damage: Minor damage
- Phase of flight: Level Off Touchdown
- Operating rules: General operating rules (Part 91)
- Location: 30.6944° N, 88.0431° W: Placed by OpenAirDocs: center of Mobile, AL, within about 7 miles (OpenAirDocs)
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=30.6944&lon=-88.0431&mi=10
- Aircraft: N36699, a cancelled registration (https://openairdocs.org/deregistered/N36699-2013-02-28) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry model: Piper PA-44-180 (registry code 7104402, https://openairdocs.org/model/piper-pa-44-180) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry engine: Lycoming O&VO-360 series (registry code 41514, https://openairdocs.org/engine/lycoming-o-vo-360-series) (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: PIPER PA44180
- People aboard: 2
- Fatal injuries: 0
- FAA source: FAA Aviation Safety Information Portal (https://asip.faa.gov/)
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/incident/19971215042969I

## Narrative

As the FAA filed it, in capitals; the FAA replaces private details with ^PRIVACY DATA OMITTED^.

NARRATIVE: ON DEC. 15, 1997, APPLICANT PAUL G. HAVEL FLYING ATP PRACTICAL EXAM WITH MR. ROGERS A. PORTER IN A PIPER SEMINOLE N36699. DURING A SIMULATED SINGLE ENGINE ILS APPROACH AT MOBILE DOWNTOWN AIRPORT (BFM). MR. HAVEL FAILED TO PUT THE LANDING GEAR DOWN AT THE FINAL APPROACH FIX DUE TO A DISTRACTION WITH AN AIRCRAFT HEATER MALFUNCTION. MR. ROGERS A. PORTER THE FLIGHT EXAMINER FAILED TO CATCH THE MISTAKE. THE FIRST INDICATION OF GEAR UP CONFIGURATION WAS NOTICED WHEN THE TAIL SKID CAME ON CONTACT WITH THE RUNWAY. AT THIS POINT, THE PILOTS HAD SUFFICIENT AIRSPEED AND KEPT THE AIRCRAFT OFF THE GROUND AND RECONFIGURED THE LANDING GEAR FOR LANDING. AFTER SHUTTING DOWN ENGINES, THE PILOTS INSPECTED THE AIRCRAFT FOR DAMAGE AND DISCOVERED THAT BOTH PROPELLERS HAD TAKEN DAMAGE ON THE TIPS IN A LOW PITCH CONDITION. NEITHER THE PROPELLERS NOR THE ENGINES STOPPED FUNCTIONING DURING THIS TIME. ALSO, THE TAIL SKID WAS SCRAPED AND THE STEP LOOKED THAT IT HAD SOME ABRASION. NO FURTHER DAMAGE WAS OBSERVED. THE APPLICANT FILED AN AVIATION SAFETY REPORT (NASA ARC 277) DESCRIBING THE INCIDENT ON 17 DEC. 97. ON 20 DEC. 97 THE APPLICANT COMPLETED ADDITIONAL TRAINING AND REACCOMPLISHED THE ATP PRACTICAL FLIGHT EVALUATION ON THE SAME DAY. INSPECTOR HARVEY J. SCHWAB IS SCHEDULED TO FLY WITH MR. ROGERS A. PORTER FOR HIS PILOT EXAMINER DESIGNATION RENEWAL ON JANUARY 13, 1998. COUNSELING HAS BEEN DONE TO BOTH PILOTS.

## Other reports on N36699 (1)

Matched to the same aircraft by N-number and date.

- [Incident 19940517028049I](https://openairdocs.org/incident/19940517028049I), May 17, 1994: Piper PA44180 (N36699), St Petersburg, FL, Minor damage. Nose gear collapsed on landing. O ring twisted in cylinder prevented full travel of the cylinder.

From the FAA Accident/Incident Data System. Reports are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model. For accidents, the NTSB's own investigation is the fuller record.

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