# Incident 20011008025549I: Piper PA34200, Ramona, CA, October 8, 2001

- Type: FAA incident report (Accident/Incident Data System), as reported
- Date: October 8, 2001, 14:15 local time
- Place: Ramona, CA
- Damage: No damage
- Operating rules: General operating rules (Part 91)
- Location: 33.0417° N, 116.8681° W: Placed by OpenAirDocs: center of Ramona, CA, within about 6 miles (OpenAirDocs)
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=33.0417&lon=-116.8681&mi=10
- Aircraft: N15925, registered now (https://openairdocs.org/aircraft/N15925) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry model: Piper PA-34-200 (registry code 7103405, https://openairdocs.org/model/piper-pa-34-200) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry engine: Lycoming I0360 series (registry code 41515, https://openairdocs.org/engine/lycoming-i0360-series) (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: PIPER PA34200
- FAA source: FAA Aviation Safety Information Portal (https://asip.faa.gov/)
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/incident/20011008025549I

## Narrative

As the FAA filed it, in capitals; the FAA replaces private details with ^PRIVACY DATA OMITTED^.

(-23) CFI (PIC) STATED THE FOLLOWING: HE AND HIS STUDENT DEPARTED RAMONA AIRPORT TO PERFORM MULTI-ENGINE INSTRUCTIONAL, LOCAL PATTERN WORK WITH EMPHASIS ON SHORT FIELD LANDINGS. SIX TOUCH AND GO LANDINGS WERE UNEVENTFUL. DURING THE SEVENTH ATTEMPTED LANDING, THE AIRCRAFT NOSE GEAR COLLAPSED UPON INITIAL TOUCH-DOWN ON THE RWY. THE AIRCRAFT SUSTAINED DAMAGE TO BOTH PROPELLERS, NOSE LANDING GEAR, AND NOSE FAIRING ASSEMBLY. THERE WERE NO INJURIES TO THE PILOTS OR OTHER PERSONS. WITNESSES FROM A LOCAL FBO/MAINTENANCE FACILITY REPORTED THAT THE AIRCRAFT WAS OBSERVED MAKING SEVERAL "HARD" THREE POINT LANDINGS, PRIOR TO THE INCIDENT. THIS INCIDENT IS NOT RELATED TO ANY NMAC OR PILOT DEVIATION REPORTED BY ATC. THE CFI WAS COUNSELED BY THE INVESTIGATING FSDO INSPECTORS.

## Other reports on N15925 (2)

Matched to the same aircraft by N-number and date.

- [Incident 20040509006989I](https://openairdocs.org/incident/20040509006989I), May 9, 2004: Piper PA34200 (N15925), Ramona, CA, Minor damage. (-23) Aircraft sustained minor damage after the nose landing gear collapsed while landing runway 27 at Ramona Airport (rnm), CA. During the preliminary…
- [Incident 20020722017259I](https://openairdocs.org/incident/20020722017259I), Jul 22, 2002: Piper PA34200 (N15925), Ramona, CA, Minor damage. (-23) Nose landing gear down hydraulic flex hose found restricted due to separation of lining caused by age. The hose was manufactured in the 2nd quarter of…

From the FAA Accident/Incident Data System. Reports are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model. For accidents, the NTSB's own investigation is the fuller record.

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