# Accident 20011012027329A: Piper PA46310P, Van Nuys, CA, October 12, 2001 - Type: FAA accident report (Accident/Incident Data System), as reported - Date: October 12, 2001, 18:28 local time - Place: Van Nuys, CA - Airport: Van Nuys Airport - Damage: No damage - Operating rules: General operating rules (Part 91) - Location: 34.1893° N, 118.4893° W: From the FAA, an estimate near the named town, within about 3 miles - Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=34.1893&lon=-118.4893&mi=10 - Aircraft: N4BP, a cancelled registration (https://openairdocs.org/deregistered/N4BP-2018-03-13) (OpenAirDocs) - Registry model: Piper PA-46-310P (registry code 7104605, https://openairdocs.org/model/piper-pa-46-310p) (OpenAirDocs) - Registry engine: Continental TSIO-520 series (registry code 17040, https://openairdocs.org/engine/continental-tsio-520-series) (OpenAirDocs) - Reported make and model: PIPER PA46310P - Fatal injuries: 0 - NTSB investigation: [NTSB LAX02FA004](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/LAX02FA004) (OpenAirDocs) - FAA source: FAA Aviation Safety Information Portal (https://asip.faa.gov/) - Page: https://openairdocs.org/incident/20011012027329A ## Narrative As the FAA filed it, in capitals; the FAA replaces private details with ^PRIVACY DATA OMITTED^. (.19) ON OCTOBER 12, 2001, AT 1828 HOURS PACIFIC DAYLIGHT TIME, A PIPER PA-28-140, N15831, WAS INVOLVED IN AN ON-GROUND COLLISION WITH A PIPER PA-46-310P, N4BP, AT THE VAN NUYS, CALIFORNIA AIRPORT. NEITHER THE STUDENT PILOT IN THE PA-28-140 NOR THE PRIVATE PILOT IN THE PA-46-310P WERE INJURED. BOTH AIRCRAFT WERE SUBSTANTIALLY DAMAGED. THE PA-28-140 WAS PREPARING TO DEPART ON A LOCAL AREA INSTRUCTIONAL FLIGHT AND THE PA-46-310P WAS LANDING FOLLOWING A PERSONAL FLIGHT THAT ORIGINATED AT WHITEMAN AIRPORT, LOS ANGELES, CALIFORNIA, ABOUT 1815. BOTH AIRPLANES WERE OPERATED UNDER 14 CFR PART 91; THE PA-28-140 BY BLUE SKIES AVIATION, AND THE PA-46-310P BY THE OWNER. VISUAL METEOROLOGICAL CONDITIONS PREVAILED AND NEITHER AIRCRAFT WAS OPERATING ON A FLIGHT PLAN. ACCORDING TO A PRELIMINARY TRANSCRIPT OF RADIO COMMUNICATIONS, THE PA-46-310P WAS CLEARED TO LAND ON RUNWAY 16R AT 1824:11 BY THE VAN NUYS AIR TRAFFIC CONTROL TOWER, AND THE PILOT WAS ADVISED "TRAFFIC WILL DEPART PRIOR TO YOUR ARRIVAL." THE TOWER THEN CLEARED THE PA-28-140 TO TAXI INTO POSITION AND HOLD ON RUNWAY 16R AT INTERSECTION 13F AT 1824:47, AND ADVISED THAT PILOT "TRAFFIC A MALIBU THREE AND ONE HALF MILE BASE TO FINAL RUNWAY ONE SIX RIGHT." AT 1826:01, THE PA-46-310 TRANSMITTED "FOUR BRAVO PAPA ON FINAL," AND THE TOWER REPLIED "MALIBU FOUR BRAVO PAPA RUNWAY ONE SIX RIGHT CLEARED TO LAND WIND CALM." THE COLLISION OCCURRED ABOUT 1827:55, ON RUNWAY 16R AT INTERSECTION 13F. RUNWAY 16R IS 8,001 FEET LONG, 150 FEET WIDE, AND HAS A DISPLACED THRESHOLD WITH 6,571 FEET AVAILABLE FOR LANDING BEYOND THE THRESHOLD. INTERSECTION 13F IS APPROXIMATELY MID-LENGTH ON THE PORTION OF THE RUNWAY AVAILABLE FOR LANDING BEYOND THE THRESHOLD. THE VISIBILITY WAS 4 MILES AND SUNSET WAS AT 1824. (-23) ON-GROUND COLLISION AT SUNSET. INTERSECTION 13F IS AT BASE OF TOWER MID-LENGTH OF RUNWAY. ## The NTSB's investigation of this event (1) From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model. - [NTSB LAX02FA004](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/LAX02FA004), Oct 13, 2001: Piper PA-46-310P (N4BP), Van Nuys, CA, substantial damage. Probable cause: The failure of the air traffic controller to provide effective separation on the runway surface as specified in FAA Order 7110.65, Paragraph 3-9-6. ## Other reports on N4BP (2) Matched to the same aircraft by N-number and date. - [Accident 20150722012209A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/20150722012209A), Jul 22, 2015: Piper PA-46-310P (N4BP), Oshkosh, WI, Destroyed. On July 22, 2015 at 0744 CDT a Piper malibu, PA-46-310P, N4BP, registered to dlm holding group LLC and operated by [privacy data omitted] impacted the… - [Incident 20001117021989I](https://openairdocs.org/incident/20001117021989I), Nov 17, 2000: Piper PA46310P (N4BP), Los Angeles, CA, Substantial damage. (-23)N4BP, PA46, nose gear collaped landing roll at Whiteman, CA, airport rwy 7 at 1637 PST. Pilot of N4BP, [privacy data omitted] stated that all landing gear… From the FAA Accident/Incident Data System. Reports are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model. For accidents, the NTSB's own investigation is the fuller record. --- OpenAirDocs.org is an independent research project of [Contrail Labs](https://contraillabs.com/). It is not affiliated with the FAA or the NTSB. Source documents are U.S. government works in the public domain.