# Accident 20020930025699A: Robsin R22, St Louis, MO, September 30, 2002

- Type: FAA accident report (Accident/Incident Data System), as reported
- Date: September 30, 2002, 10:25 local time
- Place: St Louis, MO
- Airport: Creve Coeur Airport
- Damage: Substantial damage
- Operating rules: General operating rules (Part 91)
- Location: 38.7273° N, 90.5084° W: Placed by OpenAirDocs at CREVE COEUR (1H0), within about a mile (OpenAirDocs)
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=38.7273&lon=-90.5084&mi=10
- Aircraft: N8372B, a cancelled registration (https://openairdocs.org/deregistered/N8372B-2013-06-07) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry model: Robinson Helicopter R22 (registry code 7640102, https://openairdocs.org/model/robinson-helicopter-r22) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry engine: Lycoming 0-320 series (registry code 41508, https://openairdocs.org/engine/lycoming-0-320-series) (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: ROBSIN R22
- Fatal injuries: 0
- FAA source: FAA Aviation Safety Information Portal (https://asip.faa.gov/)
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/incident/20020930025699A

## Narrative

As the FAA filed it, in capitals; the FAA replaces private details with ^PRIVACY DATA OMITTED^.

(-23) THE CFI WAS GIVING THE FIRST FLIGHT LESSON TO A STUDENT. THE CFI TOOK OFF, FLEW A TRAFFIC PATTERN AND LANDED TO THE MIDDLE OF THE SOD RUNWAY. THE CFI TURNED THE HELICOPTER INTO THE WIND (200 AT 9 KNOTS), AND PROCEEDED TO INSTRUCT THE STUDENT. THE CFI TOLD THE STUDENT TO TAKE THE COLLECTIVE AND HOLD THE SAME ALTITUDE WHILE THE CFI HELD THE AIRCRAFT IN THE SAME POSITION. THE CFI HAD THE STUDENT REMAIN LIGHTLY ON THE CONTROLS BUT TOLD HIM TO CONCENTRATE ON THE COLLECTIVE. THE STUDENT MADE AN UNEXPECTED RAPID DOWNWARD MOVEMENT WITH THE COLLECTIVE AND SIMULTANEOUSLY INTRODUCED A SUBSTANTIAL LEFT CYCLIC INPUT. THE CFI ATTEMPTED TO CORRECT, BUT THE HELICOPTER BEGAN A LEFT DYNAMIC ROLLOVER BEFORE THE CFI COULD GAIN CONTROL. IN AN INTERVIEW WITH THE STUDENT, HE STATED HE SENSED THE HELICOPTER MADE A BANK TO THE LEFT AND HE BOTTOMED THE COLLECTIVE AT THAT TIME. HE ALSO STATED HE YANKED THE CYCLIC TO THE RIGHT AND FELT HE HAD JERKED IT FROM THE CFI'S HAND.

## NTSB investigation

None matched to this report by aircraft and date. Search the NTSB's own records: https://data.ntsb.gov/carol-main-public/basic-search

From the FAA Accident/Incident Data System. Reports are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model. For accidents, the NTSB's own investigation is the fuller record.

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