# Accident 20030118035279A: Piper PA28180, Poughkeepsie, NY, January 18, 2003

- Type: FAA accident report (Accident/Incident Data System), as reported
- Date: January 18, 2003, 12:10 local time
- Place: Poughkeepsie, NY
- Airport: Dutchess County
- Damage: Substantial damage
- Phase of flight: Level Off Touchdown
- Operating rules: General operating rules (Part 91)
- Location: 41.6267° N, 73.8842° W: From the FAA
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=41.6267&lon=-73.8842&mi=10
- Aircraft: N5136L, registered now (https://openairdocs.org/aircraft/N5136L) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry model: Piper PA-28-180 (registry code 7102808, https://openairdocs.org/model/piper-pa-28-180) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry engine: Lycoming O&VO-360 series (registry code 41514, https://openairdocs.org/engine/lycoming-o-vo-360-series) (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: PIPER PA28180
- People aboard: 2
- Fatal injuries: 0
- Pilot flight hours: 265 total, 144 in this make and model, 7 in the last 90 days
- NTSB investigation: [NTSB NYC03LA041](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/NYC03LA041) (OpenAirDocs)
- FAA source: FAA Aviation Safety Information Portal (https://asip.faa.gov/)
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/incident/20030118035279A

## Narrative

As the FAA filed it, in capitals; the FAA replaces private details with ^PRIVACY DATA OMITTED^.

(-23) DURING LANDING, THE AIRCRAFT CONTACTED SNOW COVERED DIRT GROUND APPROXIMATELY FIFTY (50) FEET SHORT OF RUNWAY 24. THE INITIAL CONTACT WAS BY THE AIRCRAFT'S MAIN GEARS AND SUBSEQUENT RAPID PITCH DOWN OF THE AIRCRAFT'S NOSE, CAUSED THE NOSE GEAR TO IMPACT THE SOFT GROUND HARD AND PORTIONS OF IT TO SEPARATE FROM THE AIRFRAME. THE AIRCRAFT CONTINUED TO SLIDE ONTO THE RUNWAY AND CAME TO REST ADJACENT TO THE RUNWAY NUMBER. THE AIRCRAFT SUSTAINED SUBSTANTIAL DAMAGE TO THE AIRFRAME'S FIREWALL. THE AIRCRAFT WAS OPERATED UNDER THE PROVISIONS OF 14 CFR 91, VISUAL METEOROLOGICAL CONDITIONS PREVAILED, AND A VISUAL FLIGHT RULE (VFR) FLIGHT PLAN WAS NOT FILED. THE PILOT IN COMMAND (PIC) STATED THAT DURING HIS APPROACH TO RUNWAY 24, HE WAS TOO HIGH AND DECIDED TO RETARD THE THROTTLE TO IDLE APPROACH TO INCREASE THE DESCENT RATE. AS HE APPROACHED THE RUNWAY, THE RAPID SINK RATE CAUSED HIM TO COME UP SHORT OF THE RUNWAY'S THRESHOLD, SO HE APPLIED POWER, BUT THE ENGINE WAS SLOW TO RESPOND, HESITATED, AND EVENTUALLY POWER OUTPUT WAS REGAINED. AT THIS TIME, THE AIRCRAFT COULD NOT RECOVER FROM THE EXCESSIVE LOSS OF ALTITUDE AND CONTACTED THE GROUND.

## The NTSB's investigation of this event (1)

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

- [NTSB NYC03LA041](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/NYC03LA041), Jan 18, 2003: Piper PA-28-180 (N5136L), Poughkeepsie, NY, substantial damage. Probable cause: The pilot's failure to maintain an adequate amount of engine power while maneuvering to land, which produced delayed engine response times. A facture in the accident was the cold day.

From the FAA Accident/Incident Data System. Reports are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model. For accidents, the NTSB's own investigation is the fuller record.

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