# Incident 20040705030499I: Amtr COMMANDER582, Cumming, GA, July 5, 2004

- Type: FAA incident report (Accident/Incident Data System), as reported
- Date: July 5, 2004, 20:40 local time
- Place: Cumming, GA
- Damage: Substantial damage
- Phase of flight: Fcd/Prec Ldg From Cruise
- Operating rules: General operating rules (Part 91)
- Location: 34.2061° N, 84.1338° W: Placed by OpenAirDocs: center of Cumming, GA, within about 6 miles (OpenAirDocs)
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=34.2061&lon=-84.1338&mi=10
- Aircraft: N582JC, registered now (https://openairdocs.org/aircraft/N582JC) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry model: Collins James S COMMANDER 582 (registry code 13015HH, https://openairdocs.org/model/collins-james-s-commander-582) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry engine: Bombardier ROTAX (ALL) (registry code 09050, https://openairdocs.org/engine/bombardier-rotax-all) (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: AMTR COMMANDER582
- People aboard: 1
- Fatal injuries: 0
- Pilot flight hours: 405 total, 210 in this make and model, 10 in the last 90 days
- FAA source: FAA Aviation Safety Information Portal (https://asip.faa.gov/)
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/incident/20040705030499I

## Narrative

As the FAA filed it, in capitals; the FAA replaces private details with ^PRIVACY DATA OMITTED^.

(-23) AS PILOT ENTERED THE VICINITY OF HIS INTENDED DESTINATION AIRPORT, A THUNDERSTORM WAS OVER THE FIELD. HE ELECTED TO MAKE A PRECAUTIONARY LANDING ON A ROAD. DURING LANDING ROLL, HE ENCOUNTERED A GUST OF WIND THAT CAUSED HIM TO BECOME AIRBORNE AGAIN WHICH RESULTED IN DIVERTING HIS COURSE AND THE GYROCOPTER IMPACTED SOME SMALL SAPLING TREES. ONE OF THE TWO MAIN ROTOR BLADES AND TWO OF THE THREE PROPELLER BLADES RECEIVED SUBSTANTIAL DAMAGE. THERE WAS NO OTHER DAMAGE TO THE GYROCOPTER. NOTE: ON JULY 7, 2004, ^PRIVACY DATA ^ NTSB ATLANTA, INITIALLY RULED THIS ACCIDENT TO BE AN INCIDENT SINCE THE GYROCOPTER WAS AN EXPERIMENTAL AMATEUR-BUILT AIRCRAFT. ^PRIVACY DAT^ THE FAA ICC, CONCURRED WITH THE NTSB'S RULING BASED ON THE DEFINITION OF "AIRCRAFT ACCIDENT" AND "SUBSTANTIAL DAMAGE" CONTAINED IN CHAPTER 1 PARAGRAPH 5 OF FAA ORDER 8020.11B. ON JULY 6, 2004, THE FAA IIC RECEIVED A VOICEMAIL FROM ^PRIVACY DATA^ NTSB ATLANTA, INFORMING HIM THAT THE INCIDENT HAD BEEN UPGRADED TO AN ACCIDENT AND SHE PROVIDED THE NTSB ACCIDENT ID NUMBER. ON JULY 7, 2004, THE FAA IIC CONTACTED ^PRIVACY DAT^ THE MANAGER OF THE NTSB'S ATLANTA OFFICE TO RECONCILE THE DISCONNECT BETWEEN FAA ORDER 8020.11B AND THE NTSB'S RULING. DURING THE CONVERSATION, ^PRIVACY DA^ INFORMED THE FAA IIC THAT THE NTSB HAD REVISED THEIR DEFINITION REGARDING DAMAGE TO ROTOR BLADES. HE SAID THE NTSB NOW CONSIDERS DAMAGE TO ROTOR BLADES, SUBSTANTIAL DAMAGE.

From the FAA Accident/Incident Data System. Reports are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model. For accidents, the NTSB's own investigation is the fuller record.

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