# Accident 20040727015529A: Cessna 172P, Big Bear, CA, July 27, 2004

- Type: FAA accident report (Accident/Incident Data System), as reported
- Date: July 27, 2004, 13:29 local time
- Place: Big Bear, CA
- Airport: Big Bear City Airport
- Damage: Substantial damage
- Phase of flight: Level Off Touchdown
- Operating rules: General operating rules (Part 91)
- Location: 34.2636° N, 116.8544° W: From the FAA
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=34.2636&lon=-116.8544&mi=10
- Aircraft: N65615, a cancelled registration (https://openairdocs.org/deregistered/N65615-2023-09-27) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry model: Cessna 172P (registry code 2072436, https://openairdocs.org/model/cessna-172p) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry engine: Lycoming 0-320 series (registry code 41508, https://openairdocs.org/engine/lycoming-0-320-series) (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: CESSNA 172P
- Reported engine: LYC O320*
- People aboard: 2
- Fatal injuries: 0
- Pilot flight hours: 750 total, 750 in this make and model, 100 in the last 90 days
- NTSB investigation: [NTSB LAX04CA282](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/LAX04CA282) (OpenAirDocs)
- FAA source: FAA Aviation Safety Information Portal (https://asip.faa.gov/)
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/incident/20040727015529A

## Narrative

As the FAA filed it, in capitals; the FAA replaces private details with ^PRIVACY DATA OMITTED^.

(-23) ON FINAL APPROACH TO L35'S TAXIWAY (USED AS A TEMPORARY RUNWAY WHILE THE MAIN RUNWAY WAS BEING RESURFACED), THE AIRCRAFT LANDED ON THE PARALLEL SERVICE ROAD, BOUNCE, ROTATED AND CAME TO A STOP IN A CLUMP OF BUSHES NEXT TO THE ROAD. THERE WAS NO INJURIES TO THE INSTRUCTOR OR STUDENT PILOT. THE INSTRUCTOR PILOT CLAIMED THAT WIND SHEAR CONDITIONS CAUSED THE AIRCRAFT TO YAW VIOLENTLY AND BECOME NON-RESPONSIVE TO FLIGHT INPUTS.

## The NTSB's investigation of this event (1)

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

- [NTSB LAX04CA282](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/LAX04CA282), Jul 27, 2004: Cessna 172P (N65615), Big Bear City, CA, substantial damage. Probable cause: the instructor's inadequate compensation for wind conditions and delayed decision to perform a go-around. Contributing factors were wind gusts, windshear, and an excessive descent rate.

## Other reports on N65615 (2)

Matched to the same aircraft by N-number and date.

- [Accident 20221102019479A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/20221102019479A), Nov 2, 2022: Cessna 172P (N65615), Greenville, SC, Substantial damage. Pilot statement: "On Wednesday morning, November 2nd 2022, [privacy data omitted] and I left charleston international to summerville airport in a Cessna 172…
- [Accident 19830614046699A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/19830614046699A), Jun 14, 1983: Cessna 172P (N65615), Latrobe, PA, Substantial damage. Lost control of aircraft on the takeoff roll while trying to close a window left open prior to takeoff.

From the FAA Accident/Incident Data System. Reports are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model. For accidents, the NTSB's own investigation is the fuller record.

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