# Accident 20040905021179A: Piper PA32R301T, Picabo, ID, September 5, 2004

- Type: FAA accident report (Accident/Incident Data System), as reported
- Date: September 5, 2004, 10:30 local time
- Place: Picabo, ID
- Airport: Picabo Airport
- Damage: Substantial damage
- Phase of flight: Takeoff Ground Roll
- Operating rules: General operating rules (Part 91)
- Location: 43.3047° N, 114.0581° W: From the FAA
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=43.3047&lon=-114.0581&mi=10
- Aircraft: N880SC, registered now (https://openairdocs.org/aircraft/N880SC) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry model: Piper PA-32R-301T (registry code 7103220, https://openairdocs.org/model/piper-pa-32r-301t) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry engine: Lycoming TI0-540 series (registry code 41533, https://openairdocs.org/engine/lycoming-ti0-540-series) (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: PIPER PA32R301T
- Reported engine: LYC TIO540*
- People aboard: 3
- Fatal injuries: 0
- Pilot flight hours: 350 total, 4 in this make and model, 15 in the last 90 days
- NTSB investigation: [NTSB SEA04LA180](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/SEA04LA180) (OpenAirDocs)
- FAA source: FAA Aviation Safety Information Portal (https://asip.faa.gov/)
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/incident/20040905021179A

## Narrative

As the FAA filed it, in capitals; the FAA replaces private details with ^PRIVACY DATA OMITTED^.

(-23) AIRCRAFT STARTED TAKEOFF TO THE WEST AT PICABO AIRPORT, IDAHO. THE PRIVATE PILOT IN THE LEFT SEAT, WHO INITIATED THE TAKEOFF, THOUGHT THAT HE WAS BEING INSTRUCTED BY THE INSTRUCTOR PILOT IN THE RIGHT SEAT. PILOT IN THE RIGHT SEAT CLAIMS HE DID NOT KNOW THAT HE WAS TO ACT AS FLIGHT INSTRUCTOR DURING THIS FLIGHT. NO DISCUSSIONS BETWEEN THE TWO PILOTS ABOUT THEIR RESPONSIBILITIES WERE CONDUCTED PRIOR TO THE FLIGHT. DURING THE TAKEOFF ROLL THE PILOT IN THE LEFT SEAT STATED THAT THE PROP CONTROL MAY NOT HAVE BEEN FULLY FORWARD AS REQUIRED FOR TAKEOFF. THE AIRCRAFT DID NOT ACCELERATE AS REQUIRED TO ATTAIN ADEQUATE FLYING SPEED. PILOT IN THE RIGHT SEAT TOOK THE CONTROLS AS THE END OF RUNWAY APPROACHED. THE AIRCRAFT CONTINUED OFF THE END OF THE RUNWAY, THROUGH A FENCE RESULTING IN SUBSTANTIAL DAMAGE. NONE OF THE OCCUPANTS WERE INJURED IN THE ACCIDENT.

## The NTSB's investigation of this event (1)

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

- [NTSB SEA04LA180](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/SEA04LA180), Sep 5, 2004: Piper PA-32R-301T (N880SC), Picabo, ID, substantial damage. Probable cause: The pilot's failure to set the propeller control for takeoff performance needed to outclimb obstacles. The pilot's failure to use the checklist, trees, and a fence are contributing factors.

From the FAA Accident/Incident Data System. Reports are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model. For accidents, the NTSB's own investigation is the fuller record.

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