# Accident 20050611011159A: Piper PA18150, Palmer, AK, June 11, 2005

- Type: FAA accident report (Accident/Incident Data System), as reported
- Date: June 11, 2005, 15:20 local time
- Place: Palmer, AK
- Damage: Substantial damage
- Phase of flight: Other Ground Ops
- Operating rules: General operating rules (Part 91)
- Location: 61.6167° N, 149.0333° W: From the FAA
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=61.6167&lon=-149.0333&mi=10
- Aircraft: N5408Y, registered now (https://openairdocs.org/aircraft/N5408Y) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry model: Piper PA-18-150 (registry code 7101828, https://openairdocs.org/model/piper-pa-18-150) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry engine: Lycoming O&VO-360 series (registry code 41514, https://openairdocs.org/engine/lycoming-o-vo-360-series) (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: PIPER PA18150
- Reported engine: LYC O320*
- People aboard: 1
- Fatal injuries: 0
- Pilot certificates: Student
- Pilot flight hours: 205 total, 205 in this make and model, 1 in the last 90 days
- NTSB investigation: [NTSB ANC05CA084](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/ANC05CA084) (OpenAirDocs)
- FAA source: FAA Aviation Safety Information Portal (https://asip.faa.gov/)
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/incident/20050611011159A

## Narrative

As the FAA filed it, in capitals; the FAA replaces private details with ^PRIVACY DATA OMITTED^.

(-23) STUDENT PILOT STATED THAT HE STARTED THE ENGINE IN THE HANGAR TO CHECK THE BRAKES WITH NO INTENTIONS OF FLIGHT. HE WAS LOOKING AT THE INSTRUMENT PANEL, WHEN THE A/C ROLLED OUT THE HANGAR DOOR AND DOWN A STEEP TAXIWAY TO THE RUNWAY. HE APPLIED THE BRAKES WITH NO EFFECT ON STOPPING THE A/C. A/C WAS HIT BY A 15 KNOT CROSSWIND AND BECAME AIRBORNE. THE A/C WENT TO THE LEFT AND CRASHED INTO THE TREES.

## The NTSB's investigation of this event (1)

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

- [NTSB ANC05CA084](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/ANC05CA084), Jun 11, 2005: Piper PA-18 (N5408Y), Pamler, AK, substantial damage. Probable cause: The student pilot's failure to obtain/maintain adequate airspeed during takeoff-initial climb, which resulted in an in-flight collision with trees. Factors associated with the accident are a tailwind…

## Other reports on N5408Y (6)

Matched to the same aircraft by N-number and date.

- [Accident 20190923017329A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/20190923017329A), Sep 23, 2019: Piper PA-18-150 (N5408Y), Skwentna, AK, Substantial damage. Zulu date/time: 09/23/2019 1743Z Local date/time: 09/23/2019 0943 AKDT. The report states; Hiline Lake, Alaska. In a remote area of Hiline lake, AK; acft…
- [Accident 20160819024149A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/20160819024149A), Aug 19, 2016: Piper PA-18-150 (N5408Y), Palmer, AK, Substantial damage. According to the pilot, she over flew the sand bar that she wanted to land on, in order to ensure that the area was free of hazards. She reported that she…
- [Accident 20080621857899A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/20080621857899A), Jun 21, 2008: Piper PA18150 (N5408Y), Skwentna, AK, Substantial damage. The pilot was taking off on a dirt strip 10 miles sw of skwenta, Alaska. The aircraft drifted to the right. The right wing struck a tree just after lift off,…
- [Accident 20020322009699A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/20020322009699A), Mar 22, 2002: Piper PA18150 (N5408Y), Eureka, AK, No damage. (-23) According to the pilot-in-command, commercial flight instructor noralie jennings, she was conducting a training flight with student pilot, charles stuart…
- [Accident 19840624027209A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/19840624027209A), Jun 24, 1984: Piper PA18150 (N5408Y), Bear Creek, AK, Substantial damage. Wind shift on attempt to land on a short strip. Tried to go around but engine remained at 1600 RPM. Struck rocks.
- [Accident 19731001035519A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/19731001035519A), Oct 1, 1973: Piper PA18S125 (N5408Y), Nondalton, AK, Destroyed. Float equipped. Lost ctl in climbing turn.

From the FAA Accident/Incident Data System. Reports are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model. For accidents, the NTSB's own investigation is the fuller record.

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