# Incident 20050808028139I: Hughes 369D, Las Vegas, NV, August 8, 2005

- Type: FAA incident report (Accident/Incident Data System), as reported
- Date: August 8, 2005, 11:15 local time
- Place: Las Vegas, NV
- Airport: North Las Vegas Air Terminal
- Damage: Minor damage
- Phase of flight: Sfl Autorotation
- Operating rules: General operating rules (Part 91)
- Operator: LV7M
- Location: 36.2000° N, 115.1833° W: From the FAA
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=36.2000&lon=-115.1833&mi=10
- Aircraft: N58431, registered now (https://openairdocs.org/aircraft/N58431) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry model: Hughes Helicopters HUGHES 369D (registry code 4470706, https://openairdocs.org/model/hughes-helicopters-hughes-369d) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry engine: Allison 250 SER 250HP (registry code 03002, https://openairdocs.org/engine/allison-250-ser-250hp) (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: HUGHES 369D
- Reported engine: ALLSN 250C20B
- People aboard: 2
- Fatal injuries: 0
- Pilot flight hours: 8,350 total, 1,600 in this make and model, 30 in the last 90 days
- NTSB investigation: [NTSB LAX05CA263](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/LAX05CA263) (OpenAirDocs)
- FAA source: FAA Aviation Safety Information Portal (https://asip.faa.gov/)
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/incident/20050808028139I

## Narrative

As the FAA filed it, in capitals; the FAA replaces private details with ^PRIVACY DATA OMITTED^.

(-23) ON AUGUST 8, 2005, AT APPROXIMATELY 1115 LOCAL TIME, HELICOPTER N58431 (HU-369-D) DAMAGED THE ANTI-TORQUE ROTORS DURING PRACTICE AUTO ROTATIONAL FULL DOWN LANDINGS AT NORTH LAS VEGAS AIRPORT (VGT). THERE WERE NO INJURIES AND, IN THE OPINION OF THIS ASI, NO SUBSTANTIAL DAMAGE TO THE AIRCRAFT. SUBSTANTIAL DAMAGE WAS DONE TO THE ANTI-TORQUE ROTORS. NTSB CLASSIFIED THIS AS AN ACCIDENT (LAX05CA263) AND THE FAA CLASSIFIED THIS EVENT AS IN INCIDENT (IWP192005017). THE DETERMINATION TO CLASSIFY THIS EVENT AS AN INCIDENT WAS MADE WITH CONCURRENCE FROM THE MANAGER OF AAI-200 AND CURRENT CFR PART 830.2 DEFINITIONS OF SUBSTANTIAL DAMAGE.

## The NTSB's investigation of this event (1)

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

- [NTSB LAX05CA263](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/LAX05CA263), Aug 8, 2005: Hughes 369D (N58431), North Las Vegas, NV, substantial damage. Probable cause: the pilot's improper use of the cyclic flight control and the flight instructor's inadequate supervision of the flight.

## Other reports on N58431 (3)

Matched to the same aircraft by N-number and date.

- [Accident 20210226001709A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/20210226001709A), Feb 26, 2021: Hughes 369D (N58431), Kaufman, TX, Substantial damage. Helicopter was hoovering in an attempt to engage in a pig shoot on a charity flight. Pilot did not see the powerline behind the trees. Helicopter main blade…
- [Accident 19990131001159A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/19990131001159A), Jan 31, 1999: Hughes 369D (N58431), Las Vegas, NV, Substantial damage. Las Vegas metropolitan police department 1979 Hughes 369-D helicopter was involved in auto rotation practice when the main rotors struck the tail boom. Other…
- [Accident 19800707026379A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/19800707026379A), Jul 7, 1980: Hughes 369D (N58431), Albuquerque, NM, Substantial damage. Engine flamed out on autorotation practice. Made crash landing due to low rotor speed. Cause flame out unknown.

From the FAA Accident/Incident Data System. Reports are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model. For accidents, the NTSB's own investigation is the fuller record.

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