# Accident 20050810024239A: Piper PA28161, Culver, IN, August 10, 2005

- Type: FAA accident report (Accident/Incident Data System), as reported
- Date: August 10, 2005, 14:20 local time
- Place: Culver, IN
- Airport: Fleet Field Airport
- Damage: Destroyed
- Phase of flight: Forced/Precautionary Landing
- Operating rules: General operating rules (Part 91)
- Location: 41.2222° N, 86.3861° W: From the FAA
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=41.2222&lon=-86.3861&mi=10
- Aircraft: N4512Q, a cancelled registration (https://openairdocs.org/deregistered/N4512Q-2017-05-23) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry model: Piper PA-28-161 (registry code 7102803, https://openairdocs.org/model/piper-pa-28-161) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry engine: Lycoming 0-320 series (registry code 41508, https://openairdocs.org/engine/lycoming-0-320-series) (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: PIPER PA28161
- Reported engine: LYC O320D3G
- People aboard: 2
- Fatal injuries: 2
- Pilot flight hours: 451 total, 127 in this make and model, 130 in the last 90 days
- NTSB investigation: [NTSB CHI05LA226](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/CHI05LA226) (OpenAirDocs)
- FAA source: FAA Aviation Safety Information Portal (https://asip.faa.gov/)
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/incident/20050810024239A

## Narrative

As the FAA filed it, in capitals; the FAA replaces private details with ^PRIVACY DATA OMITTED^.

(-23) AIRCRAFT LOST POWER AFTER TAKEOFF, CRASHED INTO LAKE. BOTH OCCUPANTS, A STUDENT PILOT AND CFI DROWNED. ^PRIVACY DATA OMITTED^

## The NTSB's investigation of this event (1)

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

- [NTSB CHI05LA226](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/CHI05LA226), Aug 10, 2005: Piper PA-28-161 (N4512Q), Culver, IN, substantial damage, 2 fatal. Probable cause: The loss of engine power while maneuvering due to partial failure of the left magneto, and the flight instructor's failure to maintain sufficient airspeed to avoid a stall. An additional cause was…

## Other reports on N4512Q (1)

Matched to the same aircraft by N-number and date.

- [Incident 19810823070441I](https://openairdocs.org/incident/19810823070441I), Aug 23, 1981: Piper PA28161 (N4512Q), Schaumburg, IL, Minor damage. Student on second supervised solo taxied in front of another aircraft and struck its propeller with wing. See 8260Q

From the FAA Accident/Incident Data System. Reports are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model. For accidents, the NTSB's own investigation is the fuller record.

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