# Accident 20050827020609A: Piper PA14, Challis, ID, August 27, 2005

- Type: FAA accident report (Accident/Incident Data System), as reported
- Date: August 27, 2005
- Place: Challis, ID
- Damage: Destroyed
- Phase of flight: Low Level Operations
- Operating rules: General operating rules (Part 91)
- Location: 44.6611° N, 114.1294° W: From the FAA
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=44.6611&lon=-114.1294&mi=10
- Aircraft: N5104H, a cancelled registration (https://openairdocs.org/deregistered/N5104H-2006-02-21) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry model: Piper PA-14 (registry code 7101402, https://openairdocs.org/model/piper-pa-14) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry engine: Lycoming 0-235 series (registry code 41505, https://openairdocs.org/engine/lycoming-0-235-series) (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: PIPER PA14
- People aboard: 2
- Fatal injuries: 2
- Pilot flight hours: 17,000 total
- NTSB investigation: [NTSB SEA05FA181](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/SEA05FA181) (OpenAirDocs)
- FAA source: FAA Aviation Safety Information Portal (https://asip.faa.gov/)
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/incident/20050827020609A

## Narrative

As the FAA filed it, in capitals; the FAA replaces private details with ^PRIVACY DATA OMITTED^.

(-23) ACCORDING TO FAMILY, THE PILOT AND PASSENGER WERE CONDUCTING AERIAL SPOTTING OF BIGHORN SHEEP IN PREPARATION FOR THE UPCOMING HUNTING SEASON. PROPELLER DAMAGE INDICATES ENGINE WAS PRODUCING SIGNIFICANT POWER AT IMPACT. NO INDICATIONS OF PRE-IMPACT MECHANICAL DISCREPANCIES NOTED DURING ACCIDENT INVESTIGATION. AIRCRAFT WAS SIGNIFICANTLY CONSUMED BY POST-IMPACT FIRE. THE AIRCRAFT IMPACTED TERRAIN IN A NOSE LOW, RIGHT TURN ATTITUDE. FAMILY MEMBERS HAVE STATED THAT THEY BELIEVE THE AIRCRAFT AND PILOT LOGBOOKS WERE ON BOARD THE AIRCRAFT AT THE TIME OF THE ACCIDENT. AS A RESULT, THE AIRCRAFT TOTAL TIME AND PILOT FLIGHT TIME INFORMATION IS NOT AVAILABLE. THIS PILOT IS WELL KNOWN TO INSPECTORS FROM THIS OFFICE TO BE A HIGH TIME PILOT/INSTRUCTOR, AND A SEASONED BACK COUNTRY MOUNTAIN AVIATOR. AT THE TIME OF HIS LAST MEDICAL ON 06/22/2005, HE REPORTED A TOTAL FLIGHT TIME OF 17000 HOURS. AUTOPSY RESULTS PENDING.

## The NTSB's investigation of this event (1)

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

- [NTSB SEA05FA181](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/SEA05FA181), Aug 27, 2005: Piper PA-14 (N5104H), Challis, ID, destroyed, 2 fatal. Probable cause: The pilot's failure to maintain aircraft control and the subsequent inadvertent stall/spin to the ground. A contributing factor was the pilot's diverted attention while spotting/locating Rocky…

## Other reports on N5104H (1)

Matched to the same aircraft by N-number and date.

- [Incident 19881005068519I](https://openairdocs.org/incident/19881005068519I), Oct 5, 1988: Piper STCPA14 (N5104H), Challis, ID, Minor damage. Right landing gear collapsed on rollout. Found right wheel hub had separated from wheel. Veered off runway.

From the FAA Accident/Incident Data System. Reports are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model. For accidents, the NTSB's own investigation is the fuller record.

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