# Accident 20061220028969A: Piper PA28R180, Fresno, CA, December 20, 2006

- Type: FAA accident report (Accident/Incident Data System), as reported
- Date: December 20, 2006
- Place: Fresno, CA
- Airport: Fresno-Chandler Downtown Airport
- Damage: Substantial damage
- Phase of flight: Level Off Touchdown
- Operating rules: General operating rules (Part 91)
- Location: 36.7322° N, 119.8219° W: From the FAA
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=36.7322&lon=-119.8219&mi=10
- Aircraft: N4666J, registered now (https://openairdocs.org/aircraft/N4666J) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry model: Piper PA-28R-180 (registry code 7102809, https://openairdocs.org/model/piper-pa-28r-180) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry engine: Lycoming I0360 series (registry code 41515, https://openairdocs.org/engine/lycoming-i0360-series) (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: PIPER PA28R180
- Reported engine: LYC IO360B1E
- People aboard: 2
- Fatal injuries: 0
- NTSB investigation: [NTSB SEA07LA050](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/SEA07LA050) (OpenAirDocs)
- FAA source: FAA Aviation Safety Information Portal (https://asip.faa.gov/)
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/incident/20061220028969A

## Narrative

As the FAA filed it, in capitals; the FAA replaces private details with ^PRIVACY DATA OMITTED^.

(-23) ON DEC 20, 2006, N4666J, A 1968 PA-28R-180, WAS BEING RENTED BY A LOCAL FLIGHT SCHOOL BECAUSE THEIR PA-28R WAS IN FOR REPAIRS. THE OWNER HAD HIS CFI(1), CHECKOUT THE RENTER FLIGHT SCHOOL CFI(2). BOTH CFI'S GIVE CONFLICTING STORIES ON WHO COMPLETED A PREFLIGHT INSPECTION. CFI(2) THEN TOOK THE AIRCRAFT WITH HIS COMMERCIAL STUDENT ON AN IFR FLIGHT TO SANTA MONICA AND RETURN. UPON RETURN THE OWNER OBSERVED AND DISCOVERED 'POPPED' RIVETS ON BOTH UPPER WING SURFACES INDICATING A "HARD" LANDING. FURTHER INSPECTION RESULTED IN FINDINGS OF "SUBSTANTIAL DAMAGE" TO THE WING BOX STRUCTURE OF BOTH WINGS AS WELL AS DAMAGE TO VARIOUS OTHER LOCATIONS I.E. BENT ENGINE MOUNT AND WRINKLING IN THE AFT FUSELAGE. (-23 AMENDMENT) INVESTIGATION AND THE INTERVIEW OF ALL FOUR (4) RENTAL PILOTS OF THE AIRCRAFT BACK TO 12/9/2007 REVEALED NO DISCLOSURES. THEREFORE, NO 'POSITIVE' PROOF IS AVAILABLE OF WHEN THE ACTUAL DAMAGE OCCURRED, AND WITH WHOM, AS PIC.

## The NTSB's investigation of this event (1)

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

- [NTSB SEA07LA050](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/SEA07LA050), Dec 21, 2006: Piper PA-28R-180 (N4666J), Fresno, CA, substantial damage. Probable cause: The design stress limits of the airframe were exceeded by an unknown pilot.

## Other reports on N4666J (1)

Matched to the same aircraft by N-number and date.

- [Incident 20090625010999I](https://openairdocs.org/incident/20090625010999I), Jun 25, 2009: Piper PA28R180 (N4666J), Cottage Grove, OR, Minor damage. (-23) The PIC said he was concentraining on a perfect approach and forgot to put the gear down. The PIC said he mentally blocked out the gear horn because he…

From the FAA Accident/Incident Data System. Reports are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model. For accidents, the NTSB's own investigation is the fuller record.

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