# Incident 20070801017309I: Piper PA28161, Goodyear, AZ, August 1, 2007

- Type: FAA incident report (Accident/Incident Data System), as reported
- Date: August 1, 2007, 13:21 local time
- Place: Goodyear, AZ
- Airport: Phoenix Goodyear
- Damage: Minor damage
- Phase of flight: Touch And Go Landing
- Operating rules: General operating rules (Part 91)
- Location: 33.4233° N, 112.3754° W: Placed by OpenAirDocs at PHOENIX GOODYEAR (GYR), within about a mile (OpenAirDocs)
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=33.4233&lon=-112.3754&mi=10
- Aircraft: N155ND (not matched to a registry record)
- Reported make and model: PIPER PA28161
- People aboard: 1
- Fatal injuries: 0
- Pilot certificates: Student
- Pilot flight hours: 13 total, 13 in this make and model, 13 in the last 90 days
- FAA source: FAA Aviation Safety Information Portal (https://asip.faa.gov/)
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/incident/20070801017309I

## Narrative

As the FAA filed it, in capitals; the FAA replaces private details with ^PRIVACY DATA OMITTED^.

(-23) STUDENT ON THIRD SOLO LOST DIRECTIONAL CONTROL OF AIRCRAFT DURING THE LANDING PART OF A PLANNED TOUCH AND GO. THE AIRCRAFT VEERED OFF THE LEFT SIDE OF THE RUNWAY, AND STRUCK A TAXIWAY SIGN WHICH BROKE OFF THE RIGHT MAIN LANDING GEAR. THE AIRCRAFT CAME TO REST ON THE PARALLEL TAXIWAY. THE STUDENT STATED THAT ON SHORT FINAL, HE WAS HOLDING A "CRAB" INTO A SLIGHT CROSSWIND AND AT THE LAST MINUTE DURING HIS FLARE THE CROSSWIND CHANGED, AND HE ATTEMPTED TO STRAIGHTEN THE NOSE WITH RUDDER ONLY. THE AIRCRAFT TOUCHED DOWN WHILE THE LEFT RUDDER WAS STILL BEING HELD IN CAUSING THE LOSS OF CONTROL. THE STUDENT, HIS INSTRUCTOR, AND THE OXFORD SAFETY OFFICER (THE STUDENT IS ENROLLED IN OXFORD'S PART 61 FLIGHT SCHOOL) ALL STATED THAT THE GROUND TRAINING THE STUDENTS RECEIVE IN THE UK CALL FOR THE USE OF RUDDER ONLY, AND NOT AILERON, TO ALIGN THE AIRCRAFT WITH THE RUNWAY SO THEY DON'T CONTACT THE WINGTIP WITH THE RUNWAY. I ASKED THE INSTRUCTOR AND SAFETY PILOT TO DISCUSS THIS WITH THE GENERAL MANAGER AND THE POI ASSIGNED TO THE SCHOOL TO REMEDY THIS SITUATION. THE STUDENT HAD BEEN GIVEN ADDITIONAL TRAINING AND EVAULATED BY THE STANDARDS PILOT AND HAS BEEN RELEASED FOR SOLO FLIGHT ONCE AGAIN.

From the FAA Accident/Incident Data System. Reports are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model. For accidents, the NTSB's own investigation is the fuller record.

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