# Accident 20071030827801A: Piper PA28181, Phoenix, AZ, October 30, 2007

- Type: FAA accident report (Accident/Incident Data System), as reported
- Date: October 30, 2007, 08:41 local time
- Place: Phoenix, AZ
- Airport: Phoenix Deer Valley
- Damage: Substantial damage
- Collision: Midair collision, first aircraft
- Phase of flight: Takeoff Ground Roll
- Operating rules: General operating rules (Part 91)
- Location: 33.6883° N, 112.0825° W: From the FAA
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=33.6883&lon=-112.0825&mi=10
- Aircraft: N309PA, registered now (https://openairdocs.org/aircraft/N309PA) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry model: Piper PA-28-181 (registry code 7102807, https://openairdocs.org/model/piper-pa-28-181) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry engine: Lycoming O-360 series (registry code 41575, https://openairdocs.org/engine/lycoming-o-360-series) (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: PIPER PA28181
- Reported engine: LYC O360*
- People aboard: 1
- Fatal injuries: 0
- Pilot certificates: Student
- Pilot flight hours: 34 total, 34 in this make and model, 34 in the last 90 days
- NTSB investigation: [NTSB SEA08LA015](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/SEA08LA015) (OpenAirDocs)
- FAA source: FAA Aviation Safety Information Portal (https://asip.faa.gov/)
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/incident/20071030827801A

## Narrative

As the FAA filed it, in capitals; the FAA replaces private details with ^PRIVACY DATA OMITTED^.

(-23) BOTH N309PA & N923PA WERE IN THE RUNUP AREA, HOLDING SHORT AT THE END OF RUNWAY 74, PREPARING FOR TAKEOFF AT DVT. THE STUDENT PILOT OF N309PA WAS PREPARING FOR HIS FIRST SOLO FLIGHT AND WAS POSITIONED JUST TO THE LEFT AND SLIGHTLY AFT OF N923PA, WHICH WAS OCCUPIED BY A CFI AND HIS STUDENT. N923PA INFORMED DVT TOWER THAT HE WAS #1 AT C1, AT THE HOLD SHORT LINE. SINCE N309PA WAS IN THE RUNUP AREA BEHIND N923PA, ALSO AT C1, HE MISSED THE CALL FROM DVT TOWER CLEARING HIM FOR TAKEOFF. THEN DVT TOWER ASKED N309PA IF HE WAS AT C2 AND HE ANSWERED "YES." TOWER CLEARED N309PA FOR TAKEOFF. N309PA ACCELERATED AND TAXIED INTO N923PA. NONE OF THE 3 OCCUPANTS WERE INJURED, AND THERE WAS NO POST-EVENT FIRE. HOWEVER, THE OUTBOARD PORTION OF N309PA'S RIGHT WING MANAGED TO SLIDE ALONG THE UNDERSIDE OF N923PA'S LEFT WING AND INTO ITS PROPELLER, WHICH SEVERED APPROXIMATELY 1 FOOT OFF N309PA'S OUTBOARD PORTION OF THE RIGHT WING, INCLUDING THE SPAR AND WING TIP. THIS WAS THE PRIMARY/SUBSTANTIAL DAMAGE OF ONLY ONE OF THE TWO AIRCRAFT INVOLVED. ALL OF THE OTHER DAMAGE WAS MINOR, CONSISTING OF SCRAPES AND SMALL DENTS/BENT CORNERS OF SHEET METAL.

## The NTSB's investigation of this event (1)

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

- [NTSB SEA08LA015](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/SEA08LA015), Oct 30, 2007: Piper PA-28-181 (N309PA), Phoenix, AZ, substantial damage. Probable cause: The failure of the solo student pilot operating the other airplane to maintain clearance while taxiing for takeoff.

## Other reports on N309PA (2)

Matched to the same aircraft by N-number and date.

- [Accident 20170227001139A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/20170227001139A), Feb 27, 2017: Piper PA-28-181 (N309PA), Phoenix, AZ, Substantial damage. On February 27, 2017, about 15:15 local mountain standard time, a Piper PA-28-181 (archer iii) serial number 2843508, N309PA, was departing Deer valley airport…
- [Incident 20120830021379I](https://openairdocs.org/incident/20120830021379I), Aug 30, 2012: Piper PA-28-181 (N309PA), Wickenburg, AZ, Minor damage. While conducting practice landings at Wickenburg (E25) the student began his round out a little high. The instructor allowed the student to continue but…

From the FAA Accident/Incident Data System. Reports are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model. For accidents, the NTSB's own investigation is the fuller record.

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