# Accident 20080508839989A: Piper PA28180, Naperville, IL, May 8, 2008

- Type: FAA accident report (Accident/Incident Data System), as reported
- Date: May 8, 2008, 18:50 local time
- Place: Naperville, IL
- Airport: Naper Aero Club
- Damage: Substantial damage
- Phase of flight: Roll-Out (Fixed Wing)
- Operating rules: General operating rules (Part 91)
- Location: 41.7347° N, 88.2033° W: From the FAA
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=41.7347&lon=-88.2033&mi=10
- Aircraft: N2245M, a cancelled registration (https://openairdocs.org/deregistered/N2245M-2009-02-03) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry model: Piper PA-28-181 (registry code 7102807, https://openairdocs.org/model/piper-pa-28-181) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry engine: Lycoming O&VO-360 series (registry code 41514, https://openairdocs.org/engine/lycoming-o-vo-360-series) (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: PIPER PA28180
- People aboard: 1
- Fatal injuries: 0
- Pilot flight hours: 260 total, 51 in this make and model, 20 in the last 90 days
- NTSB investigation: [NTSB CHI08CA126](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/CHI08CA126) (OpenAirDocs)
- FAA source: FAA Aviation Safety Information Portal (https://asip.faa.gov/)
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/incident/20080508839989A

## Narrative

As the FAA filed it, in capitals; the FAA replaces private details with ^PRIVACY DATA OMITTED^.

(-23)^PRIVACY DATA OMITTED^ DEPARTED NAPERAERO AIRPORT, NAPERVILLE, ILLINOIS (LL10) IN A PIPER CHEROKEE, PA-28-181, N2245M, ON MAY 5, 2008 AT 1820 CDT. THE PURPOSE OF THE DAY'S FLIGHT WAS TO WARM THE ENGINE'S OIL IN ORDER TO COMPLETE AN OIL CHANGE. THE WEATHER CONDITIONS WERE CLEAR SKIES, GOOD VISIBILITY, AND WINDS FROM 060 DEGREES AT 15 KNOTS. ^PRIVACY DATA OMITTED^ DEPARTED RUNWAY 36 HEADING FOR JOLIET (JOT) VOR. HE TURNED BACK TOWARDS THE AIRPORT OVER JOT VOR, CONDUCTING THE GPS 336 APPROACH INTO LL10. TWO MILES SOUTH OF RUNWAY 36 ^PRIVACY DATA OMITTED^ STATED HE BROKE OFF THE APPROACH AND ENTERED A LEFT DOWNWIND FOR RUNWAY 18. HE WAS AT FIFTEEN HUNDRED FEET ON DOWNWIND AND BETWEEN 100-90 KNOTS. HE CROSSED THE APPROACH END AT 75 KNOTS AND ON VASI WITH POWER TO IDLE. ^PRIVACY DATA OMITTED^ REPORTED THAT HE FLOATED DOWN THE RUNWAY DUE TO EXCESSIVE AIRSPEED. HE ALSO COMMENTED THAT HE MENTIONED TO HIS PASSENGER, "I SHOULD GO AROUND." HE LANDED HALF WAY DOWN THE RUNWAY. HE REPORTED THAT HE APPLIED FULL BRAKES TO BRING THE AIRPLANE TO A STOP. ONCE HE REALIZED HE WAS NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO STOP THE AIRPLANE BEFORE THE END OF THE RUNWAY HE MANEUVERED THE AIRPLANE TO PLACE THE NOSE BETWEEN TWO TREES.

## The NTSB's investigation of this event (1)

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

- [NTSB CHI08CA126](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/CHI08CA126), May 8, 2008: Piper PA-28-181 (N2245M), Naperville, IL, substantial damage. Probable cause: The pilot's failure to execute a go-around. Contributing to the accident was the pilot's excessive airspeed during touchdown, which resulted in the runway overrun.

## Other reports on N2245M (1)

Matched to the same aircraft by N-number and date.

- [Accident 20041106029969A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/20041106029969A), Nov 6, 2004: Piper PA28181 (N2245M), Morris, IL, Substantial damage. (-23) Pilot discovered dead battery when trying to start aircraft. He then tied down the tail, set the throttle to 1/4, and hand-propped the aircraft. It…

From the FAA Accident/Incident Data System. Reports are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model. For accidents, the NTSB's own investigation is the fuller record.

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