# Incident 20080518836769I: Piper PA18, Big Lake, AK, May 18, 2008

- Type: FAA incident report (Accident/Incident Data System), as reported
- Date: May 18, 2008, 15:00 local time
- Place: Big Lake, AK
- Airport: Big Lake
- Damage: Minor damage
- Phase of flight: Takeoff Ground Roll
- Operating rules: General operating rules (Part 91)
- Location: 61.5347° N, 149.8125° W: Placed by OpenAirDocs at BIG LAKE (BGQ), within about a mile (OpenAirDocs)
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=61.5347&lon=-149.8125&mi=10
- Aircraft: N246LD, registered now (https://openairdocs.org/aircraft/N246LD) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry model: Piper PA-18-135 (registry code 7101820, https://openairdocs.org/model/piper-pa-18-135) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry engine: Lycoming 0-290 series (registry code 41506, https://openairdocs.org/engine/lycoming-0-290-series) (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: PIPER PA18
- People aboard: 2
- Fatal injuries: 0
- Pilot flight hours: 20,000 total, 2,000 in this make and model, 25 in the last 90 days
- FAA source: FAA Aviation Safety Information Portal (https://asip.faa.gov/)
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/incident/20080518836769I

## Narrative

As the FAA filed it, in capitals; the FAA replaces private details with ^PRIVACY DATA OMITTED^.

(-23) INSTRUCTOR PILOT INDICATED THAT WHILE ON TAKEOFF ON RUNWAY 25 HIS STUDENT INADVERTANTLY STEPPED ON THE WRONG RUDDER AND POSSIBLY THE BRAKE. AS THE STUDENT PILOT BEGAN TO LOSE CONTROL OF THE AIRCRAFT THE INSTRUCTOR PILOT SAID TO HIS STUDENT "I HAVE THE AIRPLANE". THE THEN PROCEEDED TO REGAIN CONTROL OF THE AIRCRAFT. THE INSTRUCTOR PILOT FURTHER INDICATED THAT BECAUSE OF HIS STUDENTS SHOE SIZE (SIZE 13) THAT THE STUDENT PILOT NEVER GOT COMPLETELY OFF OF THE RUDDER OR BRAKE. THE AIRCRAFT DRIFTED OFF TO THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE RUNWAY AND ONTO THE SOFT TAXIWAY. AS THE AIRCRAFT CAME TO A STOP THE RIGHT TIRE SANK UPTO THE AXLE AND THE AIRCRAFT WING CAME IN CONTACT WITH THE GROUND CAUSING SOME MINOR DAMAGE.

From the FAA Accident/Incident Data System. Reports are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model. For accidents, the NTSB's own investigation is the fuller record.

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