# Incident 20080528839589I: Piper PA28181, Phoenix, AZ, May 28, 2008

- Type: FAA incident report (Accident/Incident Data System), as reported
- Date: May 28, 2008, 07:50 local time
- Place: Phoenix, AZ
- Airport: Phoenix-Mesa Gateway
- Damage: No damage
- Phase of flight: Other Ground Ops
- Operating rules: Pilot school (Part 141)
- Operator: B4VS
- Location: 33.4484° N, 112.0740° W: Placed by OpenAirDocs: center of Phoenix, AZ, within about 13 miles (OpenAirDocs)
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=33.4484&lon=-112.0740&mi=10
- Aircraft: N4145D, a cancelled registration (https://openairdocs.org/deregistered/N4145D-2012-08-09) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry model: Piper PA-28-181 (registry code 7102807, https://openairdocs.org/model/piper-pa-28-181) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry engine: Lycoming 0-360-A1D (registry code 41504, https://openairdocs.org/engine/lycoming-0-360-a1d) (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: PIPER PA28181
- People aboard: 1
- Fatal injuries: 0
- Pilot flight hours: 35 total, 35 in this make and model, 35 in the last 90 days
- FAA source: FAA Aviation Safety Information Portal (https://asip.faa.gov/)
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/incident/20080528839589I

## Narrative

As the FAA filed it, in capitals; the FAA replaces private details with ^PRIVACY DATA OMITTED^.

(-23) THE STUDENT PILOT LANDED AT IWA AND WAS TOWED TO A DIFFERENT LOCATION ON THE RAMP DUE TO HIS NOT UNDERSTANDING THE RAMP GROUND HANDLERS HAND SIGNALS.  APPARENTLY DURING TOWING BY THE TUG THE STEERING LIMITS WERE EXCEEDED, DAMAGING THE NOSE STRUT STEERING ARM LOCATED ON THE TOP OF THE STRUT.  ONE SIDE OF THE ARM WAS BROKEN OFF THE STEERING ARM AND AS A RESULT THE RUDDER CABLES LOST SOME OF THEIR TENSION AND WHEN THE PILOT TOOK OFF THE RUDER WOULD NOT CENTER REQUIRING RUDDER INPUT TO PREVENT YAWING OF THE AIRCRAFT IN FLIGHT.  THE AIRCRAFT WAS LANDED AT FFZ WITHOUT FURTHER INCIDENT.

## Other reports on N4145D (1)

Matched to the same aircraft by N-number and date.

- [Incident 20110908025179I](https://openairdocs.org/incident/20110908025179I), Sep 8, 2011: Piper PA-28-181 (N4145D), Mesa, AZ, No damage. Student pilot reported he was changed from runway 4R to 4L and approached a little fast and applied unequal pressure to the brakes after roll out veering off…

From the FAA Accident/Incident Data System. Reports are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model. For accidents, the NTSB's own investigation is the fuller record.

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