# Accident 20080614837269A: Robsin R44RAVENII, Missoula, MT, June 14, 2008

- Type: FAA accident report (Accident/Incident Data System), as reported
- Date: June 14, 2008, 11:45 local time
- Place: Missoula, MT
- Airport: Missoula International
- Damage: Destroyed
- Phase of flight: Level Off Touchdown
- Operating rules: General operating rules (Part 91)
- Location: 46.9164° N, 114.0906° W: From the FAA
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=46.9164&lon=-114.0906&mi=10
- Aircraft: N272SW, a cancelled registration (https://openairdocs.org/deregistered/N272SW-2013-07-08) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry model: Robinson Helicopter R44 II (registry code 7640122, https://openairdocs.org/model/robinson-helicopter-r44-ii) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry engine: Lycoming IO-540 series (registry code 41530, https://openairdocs.org/engine/lycoming-io-540-series) (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: ROBSIN R44RAVENII
- Fatal injuries: 0
- Pilot flight hours: 510 total, 360 in this make and model, 105 in the last 90 days
- NTSB investigation: [NTSB LAX08CA182](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/LAX08CA182) (OpenAirDocs)
- FAA source: FAA Aviation Safety Information Portal (https://asip.faa.gov/)
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/incident/20080614837269A

## Narrative

As the FAA filed it, in capitals; the FAA replaces private details with ^PRIVACY DATA OMITTED^.

(-23) BOTH STUDENT (WHO HAD APPROXIMATELY 4 HOURS FLIGHT TIME) AND INSTRUCTOR REPORTED THAT WHILE MAKING APPROACH TO LANDING, THE STUDENT FROZE ON THE CONTROLS WITH A HIGH RATE OF DESCENT ON TURN TO FINAL.  INSTRUCTOR TRIED TO TAKE CONTROL OF THE AIRCRAFT BUT COULD NOT GET STUDENT TO RELEASE HIS "IRON GRIP".  AIRCRAFT IMPACTED THE GROUND AND ROLLED OVER.  BOTH STUDENT AND INSTRUCTOR EXITED THE AIRCRAFT AS IT CAUGHT FIRE.  BOTH RECEIVED MINOR BURNS, NO OTHER INJURIES.  AIRCRAFT WAS DESTROYED IN POST IMPACT FIRE.  WEATHER WAS NOT A FACTOR, WINDS WERE LIGHT AND VARIABLE.  NEITHER PILOT INDICATED THERE WAS ANY PROBLEMS WITH THE AICRAFT PRIOR TO IMPACT.

## The NTSB's investigation of this event (1)

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

- [NTSB LAX08CA182](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/LAX08CA182), Jun 14, 2008: Robinson R44 II (N272SW), Missoula, MT, destroyed. Probable cause: The student's inadvertent control interference, which the flight instructor was unable to overcome. A contributing factor was the instructor's poor crew coordination in his failure to verbally…

From the FAA Accident/Incident Data System. Reports are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model. For accidents, the NTSB's own investigation is the fuller record.

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