# Accident 20080615838559A: Piper PA38112, Taylor, TX, June 15, 2008

- Type: FAA accident report (Accident/Incident Data System), as reported
- Date: June 15, 2008, 14:30 local time
- Place: Taylor, TX
- Airport: Taylor Municipal
- Damage: Substantial damage
- Operating rules: General operating rules (Part 91)
- Operator: PQQS
- Location: 30.5725° N, 97.4431° W: From the FAA
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=30.5725&lon=-97.4431&mi=10
- Aircraft: N2345G, a cancelled registration (https://openairdocs.org/deregistered/N2345G-2012-06-20) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry model: Piper PA-38-112 (registry code 7103812, https://openairdocs.org/model/piper-pa-38-112) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry engine: Lycoming 0-235 series (registry code 41505, https://openairdocs.org/engine/lycoming-0-235-series) (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: PIPER PA38112
- Reported engine: LYC O235L2C
- People aboard: 1
- Fatal injuries: 0
- Pilot certificates: Student
- Pilot flight hours: 66 total, 66 in this make and model, 36 in the last 90 days
- NTSB investigation: [NTSB DFW08CA165](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/DFW08CA165) (OpenAirDocs)
- FAA source: FAA Aviation Safety Information Portal (https://asip.faa.gov/)
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/incident/20080615838559A

## Narrative

As the FAA filed it, in capitals; the FAA replaces private details with ^PRIVACY DATA OMITTED^.

(-23) STUDENT PILOT WAS PRACTICING LANDING ON RUNWAY 17 AT TAYLOR, TX AIRPORT.  ON HIS 5TH OR 6TH LANDING, THE PILOT STATED HE LANDED LONG AND BOUNCED TWO TIMES.  A WITNESS, WHO WAS AT THE HOLD SHORT LINE TO RUNWAY 17, ALSO REPORTED HE SAW THE PLANE LIGHTLY BOUNCE TWO TIMES.  THE STUDENT PILOT REPORTED HE HELD THE NOSE WHEEL OFF THE GORUND, BUT WHEN IT CAME DOWN IT STARTED TO SHIMMY AND VEERED TO THE RIGHT.  THE WITNESS ALSO REPORTED AFTER A SHORT ROLL, THE PLANE QUICKLY LOST CONTROL AND WENT OFF THE RUNWAY.  THERE WERE SKID MARKS ONLY FROM THE LEFT MAIN AND THE NOSE WHEEL.  THE NOSE WHEEL STARTED FIRST, WITH A WIDE SKID CONSISTENT WITH A TIRE TURNED TO THE SIDE.  THE TIRE SHOWED SCRAPES PERPENDICULAR TO THE TREAD.  THE LEFT MAIN TIRE'S SKID SHOWED A CONSISTENT PATTERN, IN THE DIRECTION OF THE PLANES TURN AND SHOWED ROTATION.  THE SCRAPES ON THE TIRE WERE IN THE SAME DIRECTION OF THE TIRE'S TREAD.  THE NOSE AND LEFT MAIN GEAR BROKE OFF THE PLANE, WHEN THEY DUG INTO THE DIRT.  THE REMAINING PARTS OF THE NOSE GEAR WAS TURNED 90 DEGREES FROM THE ORIGINAL POSITION.  THE CRACK IN THE NOSE GEAR FORK HAD DIFFERENT COLORATIONS.  THE BREAK FROM ONE OF THE BOLT HOLES TO THE BACK OR FRONT WAS DARK GRAY AND THE REST OF THE BREAK WAS LIGHT GRAY.  THE LEFT MAIN TIRE HAD GRASS AND DIRT BETWEEN THE TIRE'S BEAD AND THE RIM, FROM WHERE THE PLANE IT DUG INTO THE GROUND.  THE ATTACHMENT SADDLE WAS RUSTED AND THE BOLTS SHOWED SIGNS OF CORROSION.

## The NTSB's investigation of this event (1)

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

- [NTSB DFW08CA165](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/DFW08CA165), Jun 15, 2008: Piper PA-38-112 (N2345G), Taylor, TX, substantial damage. Probable cause: The student pilot's improper flare during landing. Contributing to the accident was the gusty winds.

From the FAA Accident/Incident Data System. Reports are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model. For accidents, the NTSB's own investigation is the fuller record.

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