# Accident 20080623841089A: Piper J3C65, Gansevoort, NY, June 23, 2008

- Type: FAA accident report (Accident/Incident Data System), as reported
- Date: June 23, 2008, 19:30 local time
- Place: Gansevoort, NY
- Airport: August Field
- Damage: Substantial damage
- Phase of flight: To Init Climb(1st Pwr Reduct)
- Operating rules: General operating rules (Part 91)
- Location: 43.2056° N, 73.5756° W: From the FAA
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=43.2056&lon=-73.5756&mi=10
- Aircraft: N4084J, registered now (https://openairdocs.org/aircraft/N4084J) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry model: Piper J3C-65 (registry code 7100510, https://openairdocs.org/model/piper-j3c-65) (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: PIPER J3C65
- Reported engine: CONT O200A
- People aboard: 1
- Fatal injuries: 0
- Pilot flight hours: 190 total, 96 in this make and model, 10 in the last 90 days
- NTSB investigation: [NTSB NYC08LA226](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/NYC08LA226) (OpenAirDocs)
- FAA source: FAA Aviation Safety Information Portal (https://asip.faa.gov/)
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/incident/20080623841089A

## Narrative

As the FAA filed it, in capitals; the FAA replaces private details with ^PRIVACY DATA OMITTED^.

(-23)ON JUNE 23, 2008 AT APPROXIMATELY 21:30 Z N4048J DEPARTED THE NK17 AIRPORT (PRIVATE) FOR A LOCAL FLIGHT. AT APPROXIMATELY 100 FEET OF ALTITUDE, THE AIRCRAFT ENGINE SUFFERED A LOSS OF POWER FOR UNKNOWN REASONS. CASE AND CYLINDERS OF THE ENGINE WERE FOUND INTACT AND FUNCTIONAL. FUEL SYSTEM WAS CHECKED W/O ANY REMARKABLE FINDINGS. AIRCRAFT WAS FUELED WITH AUTOMOTIVE GASOLINE. CARBURETOR AND MAGS REMOVED FOR FURTHER EXAMINATION, BUT APPEARED TO BE FUNCTIONING NORMALLY ON THE ENGINE. EXAMINATION OF SPARK PLUGS INDICATED NORMAL OPERATION. UNABLE TO RULE OUT POSSIBILITY OF FUEL SHUTOFF AS BEING IN THE WRONG POSITION (I.E. SHUTOFF). THERE IS A POSSIBILITY THAT CARBURETOR ICE WAS A FACTOR, AND CAN NOT BE EXCLUDED. WEATHER CONDITIONS AT THE TIME OF THE FLIGHT INCLUDED VERY HIGH HUMIDITY.

## The NTSB's investigation of this event (1)

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

- [NTSB NYC08LA226](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/NYC08LA226), Jun 23, 2008: Piper J3C-65 (N4084J), Ganesvoort, NY, substantial damage. Probable cause: A loss of engine power for undetermined reasons.

From the FAA Accident/Incident Data System. Reports are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model. For accidents, the NTSB's own investigation is the fuller record.

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