# Accident 20080705843469A: Piper J3C65, Chicago/Lake I, IL, July 5, 2008

- Type: FAA accident report (Accident/Incident Data System), as reported
- Date: July 5, 2008, 12:30 local time
- Place: Chicago/Lake I, IL
- Airport: Lake In The Hills
- Damage: Substantial damage
- Phase of flight: Power On Descent (Rotorcraft)
- Operating rules: General operating rules (Part 91)
- Location: 42.2117° N, 88.3272° W: From the FAA
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=42.2117&lon=-88.3272&mi=10
- Aircraft: N30451, registered now (https://openairdocs.org/aircraft/N30451) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry model: Piper J3C-65 (registry code 7100510, https://openairdocs.org/model/piper-j3c-65) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry engine: Continental A&C65 series (registry code 17003, https://openairdocs.org/engine/continental-a-c65-series) (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: PIPER J3C65
- People aboard: 1
- Fatal injuries: 0
- Pilot flight hours: 698 total, 40 in this make and model, 8 in the last 90 days
- NTSB investigation: [NTSB CHI08CA187](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/CHI08CA187) (OpenAirDocs)
- FAA source: FAA Aviation Safety Information Portal (https://asip.faa.gov/)
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/incident/20080705843469A

## Narrative

As the FAA filed it, in capitals; the FAA replaces private details with ^PRIVACY DATA OMITTED^.

(-23) PILOT MADE A WHEEL LANDING ON RUNWAY 8. THE CROSSED THE THRESHOLD AT 50-60 MPH. AFTER 2 SECONDS THE PILOT ALLOWED THE TAILWHEEL TO SETTLE TO THE RUNWAY. THE AIRPLANE THEN VEERED RIGHT.

## The NTSB's investigation of this event (1)

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

- [NTSB CHI08CA187](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/CHI08CA187), Jul 5, 2008: Piper J3C-65 (N30451), Lake In The Hil, IL, substantial damage. Probable cause: The directional control not maintained/obtained by the pilot during landing.

## Other reports on N30451 (1)

Matched to the same aircraft by N-number and date.

- [Accident 19770416007359A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/19770416007359A), Apr 16, 1977: Piper J3C65 (N30451), Graysville, AL, Substantial damage

From the FAA Accident/Incident Data System. Reports are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model. For accidents, the NTSB's own investigation is the fuller record.

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