# Accident 20081022850219A: Robsin R22BETA, October 22, 2008

- Type: FAA accident report (Accident/Incident Data System), as reported
- Date: October 22, 2008
- Damage: Substantial damage
- Phase of flight: Descent
- Operating rules: General operating rules (Part 91)
- Location: 33.4481° N, 117.0233° W: From the FAA
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=33.4481&lon=-117.0233&mi=10
- Aircraft: N8356R, registered now (https://openairdocs.org/aircraft/N8356R) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry model: Robinson Helicopter R22 BETA (registry code 7640110, https://openairdocs.org/model/robinson-helicopter-r22-beta) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry engine: Lycoming 0-360-A1D (registry code 41504, https://openairdocs.org/engine/lycoming-0-360-a1d) (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: ROBSIN R22BETA
- Reported engine: LYC O360*
- People aboard: 2
- Fatal injuries: 0
- Pilot flight hours: 10,024 total, 350 in this make and model, 40 in the last 90 days
- NTSB investigation: [NTSB WPR09CA023](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/WPR09CA023) (OpenAirDocs)
- FAA source: FAA Aviation Safety Information Portal (https://asip.faa.gov/)
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/incident/20081022850219A

## Narrative

As the FAA filed it, in capitals; the FAA replaces private details with ^PRIVACY DATA OMITTED^.

(-23) DURING A TRAINING FLIGHT LANDED HARD IN A REMOTE AREA IN FOOTHILLS OF PALOMAR MOUNTAIN.

## The NTSB's investigation of this event (1)

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

- [NTSB WPR09CA023](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/WPR09CA023), Oct 22, 2008: Robinson Helicopter R22 Beta (N8356R), Temecula, CA, substantial damage. Probable cause: The certified flight instructor's failure to maintain adequate rotor rpm during a simulated approach to landing under variable wind, and high density altitude conditions.

## Other reports on N8356R (1)

Matched to the same aircraft by N-number and date.

- [Accident 20040728016079A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/20040728016079A), Jul 28, 2004: Robsin R22BETA (N8356R), Boise, ID, Substantial damage. (-23) The pilot was on a night solo flight from caldwell, ID (eul) to Boise, ID (boi). A VFR flight plan was filed with the boi fss. During his second approach…

From the FAA Accident/Incident Data System. Reports are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model. For accidents, the NTSB's own investigation is the fuller record.

---
OpenAirDocs.org is an independent research project of [Contrail Labs](https://contraillabs.com/). It is not affiliated with the FAA or the NTSB. Source documents are U.S. government works in the public domain.