# Accident 20081221853589A: Piper PA46350P, Idaho Falls, ID, December 21, 2008

- Type: FAA accident report (Accident/Incident Data System), as reported
- Date: December 21, 2008, 18:26 local time
- Place: Idaho Falls, ID
- Airport: Idaho Falls Regional
- Damage: Substantial damage
- Phase of flight: Landing
- Operating rules: General operating rules (Part 91)
- Location: 43.5136° N, 112.0706° W: From the FAA
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=43.5136&lon=-112.0706&mi=10
- Aircraft: N379P, registered now (https://openairdocs.org/aircraft/N379P) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry model: New Piper PA46-350P (registry code 7104607, https://openairdocs.org/model/new-piper-pa46-350p) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry engine: Lycoming TIO-540-AE2A (registry code 41999, https://openairdocs.org/engine/lycoming-tio-540-ae2a) (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: PIPER PA46350P
- People aboard: 4
- Fatal injuries: 0
- Pilot flight hours: 800 total, 20 in this make and model, 50 in the last 90 days
- NTSB investigation: [NTSB WPR09CA066](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/WPR09CA066) (OpenAirDocs)
- FAA source: FAA Aviation Safety Information Portal (https://asip.faa.gov/)
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/incident/20081221853589A

## Narrative

As the FAA filed it, in capitals; the FAA replaces private details with ^PRIVACY DATA OMITTED^.

ON DECEMBER 21, 2008 AT APPROXIMATELY 18:26 LOCAL TIME N379P (PA46-350)  VEERED OFF OF THE LEFT SIDE OF RUNWAY 2 AT IDAHO FALLS, ID (KIDA).  THE  PILOT STATED THAT HE TOUCHED DOWN NORMALLY AND "AT WHICH TIME THE AIRCRAFT BEGAN TO TRACK LEFT."  THE PILOT STATED THAT HE PUT IN FULL RIGHT RUDDER TO CORRECT THE DIRECTION OF THE AIRCRAFT BUT WAS NOT SUCCESSFUL.   THE AIRCRAFT TOUCHED DOWN AT APPROXIMATELY 1500 FEET DOWN THE RUNWAY AND APPROXIMATELY 44 FEET LATER THE AIRCRAFT'S MAIN GEAR BOTH START TO SKID.  THE AIRCRAFT SKID 250-350 FEET UNTIL IT REACHED THE EDGE OF THE RUNWAY.  THE AIRCRAFT SKID ANOTHER 130 FEET IN THE SNOW OFF THE EDGE OF THE RUNWAY.  THE AIRCRAFT DESTROYED A COUPLE OF RUNWAY LIGHTS.  ONCE THE AIRCRAFT'S NOSE GEAR STRUCK THE SNOW OFF THE SIDE OF THE RUNWAY THE NOSE GEAR COLLAPSED.  THE RUNWAY CONDITIONS WERE REPORTED BY THE AIRPORT AS GOOD TO NORMAL. THESE CONDITIONS WERE TESTED AGAIN RIGHT AFTER THE ACCIDENT BY THE AIRPORT. THE AIRPORT OPERATIONS PERSONNEL STATED THAT THE RUNWAY CONDITIONS AT  CENTERLINE IS THE TESTED PORTION. HE ALSO STATED THAT SIDE OF THE RUNWAY  DID HAVE AREAS OF SNOW AND ICE. THE RUNWAY WAS PLOWED PRIOR TO THE ACCIDENT.  THE WEATHER CONDITIONS AT 17:53 WERE REPORTED AS TEMPERATURE 20 F AND DEW POINT 16 F, WIND NORTH AT 9 MPH, 9 MILES VISIBILITY, A BROKEN CLOUD LAYER AT 3,300 FEET, OVERCAST AT 4,100 FEET WITH AN ALTIMETER SETTING OF 29.93".  AT 18:53 THE WEATHER CONDITIONS WERE REPORTED AS TEMPERATURE 21 F AND DEW  POINT OF 17 F, WINDS FROM THE NORTH AT 10 MPH, 10 MILES VISIBILITY, BROKEN  CLOUD LAYER AT 3,000 FEET, BROKEN AT 3,400 FEET AND OVERCAST AT 4,300 FEET  WITH AN ALTIMETER SETTING OF 29.89".  THERE WAS LIGHT SNOW REPORTED AT  17:12 LOCAL AND THEN AGAIN AT 19:07 LOCAL.  NO SNOW WAS REPORTED AT THE  TIME OF THE ACCIDENT.  AIRCRAFT DAMAGE, WHICH WAS ASSESSED BY AN IA IN IDAHO FALLS, WAS TO THE PROPELLER, COWLING (LOWER AND BOTH SIDES), NOSE GEAR RETRACTION ASSEMBLY, ENGINE CRACKED AT ACCESSORIES, ENGINE MOUNT WAS BROKEN, FIREWALL DAMAGE AND THE LEFT GEAR DOOR WAS BENT.

## The NTSB's investigation of this event (1)

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

- [NTSB WPR09CA066](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/WPR09CA066), Dec 22, 2008: Piper PA-46-350P (N379P), Idaho Falls, ID, substantial damage. Probable cause: The pilot's failure to maintain directional control during the landing roll. Contributing to the accident were the icy runway conditions and a snow bank.

From the FAA Accident/Incident Data System. Reports are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model. For accidents, the NTSB's own investigation is the fuller record.

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