# Accident 20090825048599A: Piper PA-34-200T, Savannah, GA, August 25, 2009

- Type: FAA accident report (Accident/Incident Data System), as reported
- Date: August 25, 2009, 17:50 local time
- Place: Savannah, GA
- Airport: Savannah-Hilton Head Island In
- Damage: Substantial damage
- Phase of flight: Landing: Touchdown
- Location: 32.1275° N, 81.2022° W: From the FAA
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=32.1275&lon=-81.2022&mi=10
- Aircraft: N47611, a cancelled registration (https://openairdocs.org/deregistered/N47611-2015-11-16) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry model: Piper PA-34-200T (registry code 7103406, https://openairdocs.org/model/piper-pa-34-200t) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry engine: Continental TSIO-360 series (registry code 17019, https://openairdocs.org/engine/continental-tsio-360-series) (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: PIPER PA-34-200T
- Reported engine: CONT MOTOR TSIO-360 SER
- People aboard: 2
- Fatal injuries: 0
- Other injuries: 0
- Pilot certificates: Commercial pilot, flight instructor
- Pilot flight hours: 450 total, 60 in this make and model, 45 in the last 90 days
- NTSB investigation: [NTSB ERA09CA484](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/ERA09CA484) (OpenAirDocs)
- FAA source: FAA Aviation Safety Information Portal (https://asip.faa.gov/)
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/incident/20090825048599A

## Narrative

As the FAA filed it, in capitals; the FAA replaces private details with ^PRIVACY DATA OMITTED^.

AUGUST 26, 2009 INSPECTED THE AIRCRAFT  AT THE COSTAL EMPIRE FLIGHT TRAINING FACILITY LOCATED AT THE SAVANNAH AIRPORT (SAV) SAVANNAH GA. THE SUBJECT AIRCRAFT A PIPER PA-34-200 WAS PARKED IN THE TIE DOWN OUTSIDE OF THE SCHOOL. MR. JASON STODDART THE PILOT IN COMMAND, AND FLIGHT SCHOOL DIRECTOR ^PRIVACY DATA OMITTED^ WERE PRESENT. THE AIRCRAFT A PIPER PA-34-200T  RECEIVED SUBSTANTIAL DAMAGE. THE NOSE SECTION AND HAD SUBSTANTIAL DAMAGE AT THE COCKPIT FIREWALL AS A RESULT OF THE NOSE GEAR SUPPORT BEING DRIVEN UP BY THE IMPACT AND POPPING THE WINDSHIELDS AND WINDSHIELD POST. THE RIGHT ENGINE PROPELLER HAD SUSTAINED DAMAGE AS WELL.  THE INTERVIEW WITH THE PILOT IN COMMAND MR. JASON STODDART AND ON SCENE INVESTIGATION REVEALED THE FOLLOWING:  MR. STODDART HOLDS AN FAA FLIGHT INSTRUCTOR AIRPLANE SINGLE AND MULTI ENGINE RATING, AND A FIRST CLASS MEDICAL CERTIFICATE DATED 09/18/08 MR. STODDART HAS 60 HOURS IN THIS MAKE AND MODEL AIRCRAFT AND 450 HOURS TOTAL TIME.  MR. STODDART  HAS LOGGED 45 HOURS IN THE LAST 90 DAYS.  AT THE TIME OF THE ACCIDENT (17:50 LCL) THE WEATHER WAS VMC.  ACCORDING TO MR. STODDART , HE WAS GIVING FLIGHT INSTRUCTION TO MR. ERIC BRADLEY BARNETT AND WHILE MR. BARNETT WAS LANDING ON RUNWAY 19 AT SAV, JUST BEFORE TOUCH DOWN HE PULLED ABRUPTLY BACK ON THE CONTROL WHEEL CAUSING THE AIRCRAFT TO NOSE UP APPROXIMATELY 10 FEET AND STALL. THE INSTRUCTOR MR. JASON STODDART ATTEMPTED TO NOSE FORWARD WITH THE CONTROL WHEEL AND APPLY POWER BUT WAS NOT ABLE TO ARREST THE STALL. THE AIRCRAFT NOSED IN AND CONTACTED THE RUNWAY AT SUCH AN ANGLE THAT THE RIGHT HAND ENGINE PROPELLER MOMENTARILY CONTACTED THE SURFACE.  AFTER THE AIRCRAFT SETTLED IN ON THE RUNWAY THE PIC TAXIED TO THE RAMP AND PARKED. WHEN THE PIC WAS SECURING THE AIRCRAFT, DURING AND INSPECTION THE EXTERIOR THE WINDSHIELD DAMAGE WAS NOTED AS WELL AS THE RIGHT HAND ENGINE PROP TIPS.  THE AIRCRAFT SUSTAINED SUBSTANTIAL DAMAGE TO THE NOSE AREA AND WINDSCREEN POST AS WELL AS THE RIGHT HAND ENGINE AND PROPELLER.

## The NTSB's investigation of this event (1)

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

- [NTSB ERA09CA484](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/ERA09CA484), Aug 25, 2009: Piper PA-34 (N47611), Savannah, GA, substantial damage. Probable cause: The student pilot's failure to maintain pitch control during landing and the flight instructor's delayed remedial action, resulting in a hard landing.

## Other reports on N47611 (1)

Matched to the same aircraft by N-number and date.

- [Incident 20000427032509I](https://openairdocs.org/incident/20000427032509I), Apr 27, 2000: Piper PA34200T (N47611), Bismarck, ND, Substantial damage. (-23)On April 27, 2000 at 1430CDT, a Piper PA-34-200T, operated by executive air taxi corp. was inbound for landing to minot international airport, minot, ND…

From the FAA Accident/Incident Data System. Reports are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model. For accidents, the NTSB's own investigation is the fuller record.

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