# Accident 20090829018569A: Piper PA28181, Scottsdale, AZ, August 29, 2009

- Type: FAA accident report (Accident/Incident Data System), as reported
- Date: August 29, 2009, 11:30 local time
- Place: Scottsdale, AZ
- Airport: Scottsdale
- Damage: Minor damage
- Phase of flight: Landing
- Operating rules: General operating rules (Part 91)
- Operator: FQAS
- Location: 33.5092° N, 111.8990° W: Placed by OpenAirDocs: center of Scottsdale, AZ, within about 8 miles (OpenAirDocs)
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=33.5092&lon=-111.8990&mi=10
- Aircraft: N296PA, a cancelled registration (https://openairdocs.org/deregistered/N296PA-2018-09-13) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry model: Piper PA-28-181 (registry code 7102807, https://openairdocs.org/model/piper-pa-28-181) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry engine: Lycoming O-360 series (registry code 41575, https://openairdocs.org/engine/lycoming-o-360-series) (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: PIPER PA28181
- Reported engine: LYC O360*
- People aboard: 3
- Fatal injuries: 0
- Other injuries: 0
- Pilot flight hours: 1,500 total, 320 in this make and model, 215 in the last 90 days
- FAA source: FAA Aviation Safety Information Portal (https://asip.faa.gov/)
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/incident/20090829018569A

## Narrative

As the FAA filed it, in capitals; the FAA replaces private details with ^PRIVACY DATA OMITTED^.

THE STUDENT AND INSTRUCTOR WERE PERFORMING TOUCH AND GO LANDINGS AT SCOTTSDALE MUNICIPAL AIRPORT (SDL).  THE STUDENT WAS MAKING STABILIZED APPROACHES ON EACH LANDING.  ON THE FINAL TOUCH AND GO, THE AIRPLANE WAS APPROACHING THE RUNWAY.  ABOUT 10 FEET ABOVE THE RUNWAY, THE STUDENT PERCEIVED THE AIRPLANE AS BEING TOO HIGH, AND ABRUPTLY PUSHED THE NOSE DOWN. THE INSTRUCTOR TRIED TO CORRECT THE AIRPLANE, BUT THE NOSE STRUCK THE GROUND HARD.  THE INSTRUCTOR CHOSE NOT TO TRY TO SAVE THE LANDING, AND APPLIED FULL POWER AND EXECUTED A GO-AROUND.  THE STUDENT THEN PERFORMED A NORMAL LANDING.  AS THE NOSE GEAR CAME IN CONTACT WITH THE GROUND IT BEGAN TO VIBRATE/SHIMMY. THE INSTRUCTOR TAXIED CLEAR OF THE RUNWAY AND SHUTDOWN THE ENGINE.  INVESTIGATION SHOWS THE NOSE WHEEL WENT FLAT OR BLEW OUT AT THE TIME OF THE HARD NOSE LANDING, AND THE PROPELLER STRUCK THE GROUND.  RECOMMEND COUNSELING FOR THE STUDENT PILOT AND FLIGHT INSTRUCTOR.

## NTSB investigation

None matched to this report by aircraft and date. Search the NTSB's own records: https://data.ntsb.gov/carol-main-public/basic-search

## Other reports on N296PA (1)

Matched to the same aircraft by N-number and date.

- [Incident 20120806016489I](https://openairdocs.org/incident/20120806016489I), Aug 6, 2012: Piper PA-28-181 (N296PA), Deer Valley, AZ, No damage. During flight, the student pilot stated the throttle was stuck. Instructor then took the controls. Instructor determined that the throttle would not move aft…

From the FAA Accident/Incident Data System. Reports are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model. For accidents, the NTSB's own investigation is the fuller record.

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