# Accident 20110312003409A: Piper PA-28-161, Oxford, CT, March 12, 2011 - Type: FAA accident report (Accident/Incident Data System), as reported - Date: March 12, 2011, 13:05 local time - Place: Oxford, CT - Airport: Waterbury-Oxford Airport - Damage: Substantial damage - Phase of flight: Landing: Touchdown - Operating rules: General operating rules (Part 91) - Location: 41.4783° N, 73.1350° W: From the FAA - Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=41.4783&lon=-73.1350&mi=10 - Aircraft: N2838D, registered now (https://openairdocs.org/aircraft/N2838D) (OpenAirDocs) - Registry model: Piper PA-28-161 (registry code 7102803, https://openairdocs.org/model/piper-pa-28-161) (OpenAirDocs) - Registry engine: Lycoming 0-320 series (registry code 41508, https://openairdocs.org/engine/lycoming-0-320-series) (OpenAirDocs) - Reported make and model: PIPER PA-28-161 - Reported engine: LYCOMING 0-320 SERIES - People aboard: 2 - Fatal injuries: 0 - Other injuries: 0 - Pilot certificates: Commercial pilot, flight instructor - Pilot flight hours: 5,000 total, 3,000 in this make and model, 200 in the last 90 days - NTSB investigation: [NTSB ERA11CA187](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/ERA11CA187) (OpenAirDocs) - FAA source: FAA Aviation Safety Information Portal (https://asip.faa.gov/) - Page: https://openairdocs.org/incident/20110312003409A ## Narrative As the FAA filed it, in capitals; the FAA replaces private details with ^PRIVACY DATA OMITTED^. ON MARCH 12, 2011 AT APPROXIMATELY 1305 LOCAL TIME, A PIPER CHEROKEE, PA-28-161, N2838D, EXPERIENCED A NOSE LOW LANDING WHICH RESULTED IN SUBSTANTIAL DAMAGE TO THE AIRCRAFTS' FIREWALL, ENGINE/ NOSE LANDING GEAR MOUNT STRUCTURE, AND NOSE LANDING GEAR. THE PROPELLER WAS DAMAGED DUE TO CONTACT WITH THE RUNWAY SURFACE. ^PRIVACY DATA OMITTED^, A COMMERCIAL PILOT AND CERTIFIED FLIGHT INSTRUCTOR, WAS PROVIDING INSTRUCTION TO ^PRIVACY DATA OMITTED^, A STUDENT PILOT, IN CROSSWIND PROCEDURES. WHILE PERFORMING TRAFFIC PATTERN WORK ^PRIVACY DATA OMITTED^ FAILED TO PERFORM PROPER CROSSWIND LANDING TECHNIQUES WHICH IN TURN RESULTED IN THIS AIRCRAFT ACCIDENT. ^PRIVACY DATA OMITTED^ FAILED TO PROVIDE OR CONDUCT PROPER CORRECTIVE ACTION. ^PRIVACY DATA OMITTED^ HAD PREVIOUSLY FAILED HIS PRIVATE PILOT CHECK RIDE IN THE AREAS OF CROSSWIND LANDING TECHNIQUES AND AIRCRAFT SYSTEMS ON DECEMBER 12, 2010. ^PRIVACY DATA OMITTED^ HAD RETURNED TO OXFORD FLIGHT TRAINING TO RECEIVE ADDITIONAL TRAINING FROM ^PRIVACY DATA OMITTED^. ^PRIVACY DATA OMITTED^ AND ^PRIVACY DATA OMITTED^ TOOK OFF AT APPROXIMATELY 1200 LOCAL TO PRACTICE TAKEOFFS AND LANDINGS. ACCORDING TO ^PRIVACY DATA OMITTED^ STATEMENT THE WINDS WERE REPORTED AT 250 AND 280 AT 8 KNOTS. ^PRIVACY DATA OMITTED^ PERFORMED TWO STOP AND GO LANDINGS FOLLOWED BY 2 TOUCH AND GO LANDINGS TO RUNWAY 36. DURING THE INTERVIEW OF ^PRIVACY DATA OMITTED^ AND ^PRIVACY DATA OMITTED^ STATED THAT THEY WERE FLYING THE FINAL APPROACH AT 70 KNOTS, WITH THREE NOTCHES OF FLAPS. DURING THE APPROACH AND LANDING THE STUDENT PILOT, ^PRIVACY DATA OMITTED^ WAS THE PILOT ON THE CONTROLS. ^PRIVACY DATA OMITTED^ FURTHER STATED THAT THEY WERE NOT CONDUCTING ANY SIMULATIONS, THAT THE APPROACH WAS NORMAL, THE VASI INDICATED ON GLIDE SLOPE, AND THAT THE AIRCRAFT WAS AT IDLE CROSSING THE THRESHOLD. ^PRIVACY DATA OMITTED^ STATED THAT HE WAS CRABBING TO CORRECT FOR THE CROSSWIND AND "KICKED" THE RUDDER TO ALIGN THE AIRCRAFT. ^PRIVACY DATA OMITTED^ STATED THAT HE DID NOT PERCEIVE ANY LATERAL DRIFT. ^PRIVACY DATA OMITTED^ STATED THAT THEY LANDED "EXTREMELY FLAT" AND THAT HE ATTEMPTED TO APPLY POWER BUT, BY THE TIME HE HAD REACHED THE THROTTLE IT WAS TOO LATE. VIDEO SURVEILLANCE FROM THE WATERBURY-OXFORD AIRPORT SHOWS THE AIRCRAFT LANDING IN A NOSE DOWN ATTITUDE. THE AIRCRAFT WAS THEN STOPPED ON THE RUNWAY AND ^PRIVACY DATA OMITTED^ LOOKED AT THE NOSE LANDING GEAR AND STATED THAT HE THOUGHT THAT THEY HAD A FLAT TIRE. INSPECTION OF THE AIRCRAFT REVEALED THAT THE AIRCRAFT HAS SUSTAINED SUBSTANIAL DAMAGE. ## The NTSB's investigation of this event (1) From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model. - [NTSB ERA11CA187](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/ERA11CA187), Mar 12, 2011: Piper PA-28-161 (N2838D), Oxford, CT, substantial damage. Probable cause: The student pilot's inadequate landing flare and the certified flight instructor's inadequate remedial action, resulting in a hard landing. ## Other reports on N2838D (4) Matched to the same aircraft by N-number and date. - [Accident 20110422007569A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/20110422007569A), Apr 22, 2011: Piper PA-28-161 (N2838D), Meriden, CT, Substantial damage. Student pilot admits to landing a little harder than normal on runway 18 at Meriden airport due to small wind sheer or changing wind conditions. The right main… - [Incident 20100726041139I](https://openairdocs.org/incident/20100726041139I), Jul 26, 2010: Piper PA-28-161 (N2838D), Vineyard Haven, MA, Minor damage. Aircraft N2838D was cleared for touch and go on runway 24. An unexpected gust of wind, which the pilot stated he was not expecting caused him to veer off the… - [Incident 19880506021389I](https://openairdocs.org/incident/19880506021389I), May 6, 1988: Piper PA28161 (N2838D), Augusta, ME, Minor damage. Landed downwind and departed the departure end of runway. Sustained minor damage. - [Incident 19800718083229I](https://openairdocs.org/incident/19800718083229I), Jul 18, 1980: Piper PA28161 (N2838D), Norwood, MA, Minor damage. Student on touch and go landed long, then instructed by tower for full stop. Overran runway end. From the FAA Accident/Incident Data System. Reports are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model. For accidents, the NTSB's own investigation is the fuller record. --- OpenAirDocs.org is an independent research project of [Contrail Labs](https://contraillabs.com/). 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