# Accident 20110430012179A: Piper PA-28-181, Lagrangeville, NY, April 30, 2011

- Type: FAA accident report (Accident/Incident Data System), as reported
- Date: April 30, 2011, 17:20 local time
- Place: Lagrangeville, NY
- Damage: Substantial damage
- Phase of flight: Landing: Touchdown
- Operating rules: General operating rules (Part 91)
- Location: 41.7000° N, 73.7472° W: From the FAA
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=41.7000&lon=-73.7472&mi=10
- Aircraft: N984D, a cancelled registration (https://openairdocs.org/deregistered/N984D-2012-11-05) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry model: Piper PA-28-181 (registry code 7102807, https://openairdocs.org/model/piper-pa-28-181) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry engine: Lycoming O&VO-360 series (registry code 41514, https://openairdocs.org/engine/lycoming-o-vo-360-series) (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: PIPER PA-28-181
- Reported engine: LYCOMING O&VO-360 SER
- People aboard: 2
- Fatal injuries: 0
- Other injuries: 1
- Pilot certificates: Private pilot
- Pilot flight hours: 656 total, 643 in this make and model, 27 in the last 90 days
- NTSB investigation: [NTSB ERA11CA271](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/ERA11CA271) (OpenAirDocs)
- FAA source: FAA Aviation Safety Information Portal (https://asip.faa.gov/)
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/incident/20110430012179A

## Narrative

As the FAA filed it, in capitals; the FAA replaces private details with ^PRIVACY DATA OMITTED^.

04/30/2011 AT 1720 LOCAL TIME THE 656 HOUR PRIVATE PILOT RATED PIC, OCCUPYING THE RIGHT FRONT SEAT, ALLOWED THE STUDENT PILOT, OCCUPYING THE LEFT SEAT TO LAND THE AIRPLANE AT 44N.  IN A STATEMENT BY THE PIC (RIGHT SEAT) HE STATED THAT HE TOLD THE STUDENT PILOT THAT, "I AM THE PIC" PRIOR TO THE FLIGHT EVEN THOUGH HE ALSO STATED THAT, "IT WAS THE FIRST TIME THAT I FLEW WITH THE GUY (STUDENT PILOT)" AND ALSO THAT, "I'VE NEVER FLOWN FROM THE RIGHT (SEAT)"  UPON TOUCHDOWN ON RUNWAY 35, THE AIRCRAFT WAS LEFT OF CENTERLINE, THE PIC (RIGHT SEAT) TOLD THE STUDENT PILOT (PERSON OPERATING THE FLIGHT CONTROLS) TO, "THROTTLE BACK."  THE STUDENT PILOT THEN, "WENT TO FULL THROTTLE."  THE PIC (RIGHT SEAT) STATED THAT HE (THE PIC) TRIED TO CONTROL THE AIRPLANE BY APPLYING BRAKES BUT, DID NOT REACH UP TO REDUCE THE THROTTLE.  THE AIRCRAFT STRUCK A RUNWAY LIGHT AND THEN IMPACTED HEAVY BRUSH WITH THE LEFT WING AND EVENTUALLY BENT THAT WING UP AT APPROXIMATELY A 45 DEGREE ANGLE WITH THE AIRCRAFT COMING TO REST APPROXIMATELY FACING THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION OF INTENDED LANDING.  THE PIC STATED THAT HE SHUT DOWN AND HE AND THE STUDENT PILOT EXITED THE AIRCRAFT THROUGH THE RIGHT OVER WING DOOR (ONLY DOOR).  THE PIC REFUSED MEDICAL CARE WHILE THE STUDENT PILOT WAS TRANSPORTED TO THE HOSPITAL COMPLAINING OF HEAD PAIN.  THE STUDENT WAS RELEASED FROM THE HOSPITAL LATER THAT EVENING.

## The NTSB's investigation of this event (1)

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

- [NTSB ERA11CA271](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/ERA11CA271), Apr 30, 2011: Piper PA-28-181 (N984D), Millbrook, NY, substantial damage. Probable cause: The student pilot’s failure to maintain directional control during landing and the pilot’s inadequate remedial action, which resulted in a runway excursion.

From the FAA Accident/Incident Data System. Reports are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model. For accidents, the NTSB's own investigation is the fuller record.

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