# Accident 20110911021359A: Piper PA-16, Muskegon, MI, September 11, 2011

- Type: FAA accident report (Accident/Incident Data System), as reported
- Date: September 11, 2011, 10:27 local time
- Place: Muskegon, MI
- Damage: Substantial damage
- Phase of flight: Takeoff: Departure Roll
- Operating rules: General operating rules (Part 91)
- Location: 43.1678° N, 86.2356° W: From the FAA
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=43.1678&lon=-86.2356&mi=10
- Aircraft: N5383H, a cancelled registration (https://openairdocs.org/deregistered/N5383H-2018-01-05) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry model: Piper PA-16 (registry code 7101602, https://openairdocs.org/model/piper-pa-16) (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: PIPER PA-16
- People aboard: 2
- Fatal injuries: 0
- Other injuries: 0
- Pilot certificates: Commercial pilot, flight instructor
- Pilot flight hours: 2,498 total, 250 in this make and model, 40 in the last 90 days
- NTSB investigation: [NTSB CEN11LA642](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/CEN11LA642) (OpenAirDocs)
- FAA source: FAA Aviation Safety Information Portal (https://asip.faa.gov/)
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/incident/20110911021359A

## Narrative

As the FAA filed it, in capitals; the FAA replaces private details with ^PRIVACY DATA OMITTED^.

AIRCRAFT WITH A PRIVATE PILOT AND FLIGHT INSTRUCTOR GIVING INSTRUCTION ON TAILWHEEL AIRPLANES LOST CONTROL ON TAKEOFF AND IMPACTED THE GROUND. THE LEFT WING STRUCK GROUND CAUSING THE  AIRCRAFT TO IMPACT THE GROUND, COMING TO A REST BETWEEN RUNWAY 14 AND TAXIWAY BRAVO.

## The NTSB's investigation of this event (1)

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

- [NTSB CEN11LA642](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/CEN11LA642), Sep 11, 2011: Piper PA16 (N5383H), Muskegan, MI, substantial damage. Probable cause: The pilot's loss of directional control during the takeoff roll and the flight instructor's inability to apply remedial action due to the opposite corrective control inputs by the pilot.

## Other reports on N5383H (1)

Matched to the same aircraft by N-number and date.

- [Accident 19730309004619A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/19730309004619A), Mar 9, 1973: Piper PA16 (N5383H), Turner Falls, MA, Substantial damage. Bounced ldg,lost ctl.

From the FAA Accident/Incident Data System. Reports are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model. For accidents, the NTSB's own investigation is the fuller record.

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