# Accident 20111201028469A: Cessna 172P, Schenectady, NY, December 1, 2011

- Type: FAA accident report (Accident/Incident Data System), as reported
- Date: December 1, 2011, 15:00 local time
- Place: Schenectady, NY
- Airport: Schenectady County
- Damage: Substantial damage
- Phase of flight: Landing: Touchdown
- Operating rules: General operating rules (Part 91)
- Location: 42.8525° N, 73.9289° W: From the FAA
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=42.8525&lon=-73.9289&mi=10
- Aircraft: N83PD, a cancelled registration (https://openairdocs.org/deregistered/N83PD-2012-10-23) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry model: Cessna 172P (registry code 2072436, https://openairdocs.org/model/cessna-172p) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry engine: Lycoming 0-320 series (registry code 41508, https://openairdocs.org/engine/lycoming-0-320-series) (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: CESSNA 172P
- Reported engine: LYCOMING 0-320 SERIES
- People aboard: 1
- Fatal injuries: 0
- Other injuries: 0
- Pilot certificates: Private pilot
- Pilot flight hours: 130 total, 5 in this make and model, 5 in the last 90 days
- NTSB investigation: [NTSB ERA12CA098](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/ERA12CA098) (OpenAirDocs)
- FAA source: FAA Aviation Safety Information Portal (https://asip.faa.gov/)
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/incident/20111201028469A

## Narrative

As the FAA filed it, in capitals; the FAA replaces private details with ^PRIVACY DATA OMITTED^.

ON DECEMBER 12, 2011, I SPOKE WITH ^PRIVACY DATA OMITTED^ ON MY OFFICE PHONE AT THE ALBANY FSDO. I ASKED, AND HE STATED THAT HE WAS THE PILOT OF A C-172, N83PD, THAT HAD A HARD LANDING AT THE SCHENECTADY COUNTY AIRPORT ON DECEMBER 01, 2011 AT ^PRIVACY DATA OMITTED^ CONFIRMED THAT HE WAS LANDING ON RUNWAY 28, AND THAT THE WINDS WERE FROM 310 DEGREES AT APPROXIMATELY 15 KNOTS.  ^PRIVACY DATA OMITTED^ EXPLAINED THAT HE WAS ON SHORT FINAL, WHEN THE AIRPLANE "JUST DROPPED" AND BOUNCED HARD ONTO THE RUNWAY.  THE ^PRIVACY DATA OMITTED^ STATED HE PUSHED THE NOSE OVER TO GET BACK ON THE GROUND, BUT PUSHED TOO HARD CAUSING THE PLANE TO BOUNCE TWO OR THREE MORE TIMES BEFORE HE COULD CONTROL THE PLANE, AND TAXI IT OFF THE RUNWAY.  ^PRIVACY DATA OMITTED^ THEN PROCEEDED TO TAXI THE PLANE TO THE TIE DOWN AREA BY THE T-HANGERS, AND SHUT DOWN THE ENGINE.  ONCE HE GOT OUT OF THE AIRPLANE, HE SAW THE DAMAGE TO THE PROPELLER, AND FUSELAGE, AND CALLED THE OWNER OF THE AIRPLANE TO REPORT THE DAMAGE.^PRIVACY DATA OMITTED^ STATED THAT THE WINDS WERE A BIT GUSTY, BUT THAT HE DID NOT CORRECT FOR THE SUDDEN DROP ON SHORT FINAL CORRECTLY.^PRIVACY DATA OMITTED^ STATED HIS PILOT HOURS TO BE RECORDED ON THE 8020-23 ACCIDENT REPORT.

## The NTSB's investigation of this event (1)

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

- [NTSB ERA12CA098](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/ERA12CA098), Dec 1, 2011: Cessna 172P (N83PD), Schenectady, NY, substantial damage. Probable cause: The pilot’s inadequate recovery from a bounced landing, which resulted in a loss of control.

From the FAA Accident/Incident Data System. Reports are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model. For accidents, the NTSB's own investigation is the fuller record.

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