# Incident 20120830021379I: Piper PA-28-181, Wickenburg, AZ, August 30, 2012

- Type: FAA incident report (Accident/Incident Data System), as reported
- Date: August 30, 2012, 17:20 local time
- Place: Wickenburg, AZ
- Damage: Minor damage
- Phase of flight: Landing: Touchdown
- Operating rules: Pilot school (Part 141)
- Operator: FQAS
- Location: 33.9706° N, 112.7950° W: From the FAA
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=33.9706&lon=-112.7950&mi=10
- Aircraft: N309PA, registered now (https://openairdocs.org/aircraft/N309PA) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry model: Piper PA-28-181 (registry code 7102807, https://openairdocs.org/model/piper-pa-28-181) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry engine: Lycoming O-360 series (registry code 41575, https://openairdocs.org/engine/lycoming-o-360-series) (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: PIPER PA-28-181
- Reported engine: LYCOMING O-360 SERIES
- People aboard: 3
- Fatal injuries: 0
- Other injuries: 0
- Pilot certificates: Commercial pilot, flight instructor
- Pilot flight hours: 936 total, 560 in this make and model, 130 in the last 90 days
- NTSB investigation: [NTSB WPR12CA380](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/WPR12CA380) (OpenAirDocs)
- FAA source: FAA Aviation Safety Information Portal (https://asip.faa.gov/)
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/incident/20120830021379I

## Narrative

As the FAA filed it, in capitals; the FAA replaces private details with ^PRIVACY DATA OMITTED^.

WHILE CONDUCTING PRACTICE LANDINGS AT WICKENBURG (E25) THE STUDENT BEGAN HIS ROUND OUT A LITTLE HIGH. THE INSTRUCTOR ALLOWED THE STUDENT TO CONTINUE BUT REALIZED HE WAS NOT CORRECTING AS SOON AS HE SHOULD. THE INSTRUCTOR TOOK CONTROL OF THE AIRCRAFT LATER THAN HE SHOULD HAVE AND DID NOT ADD POWER TO INCREASE AIRSPEED. DURING THE FLAIR THE AIRSPEED DISSIPATED FASTER THAN THE INSTRUCTOR EXPECTED. THE AIRCRAFT CONTACTED THE RUNWAY HARD. NO INJURIES TO INSTRUCTOR OR STUDENTS.

## The NTSB's investigation of this event (1)

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

- [NTSB WPR12CA380](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/WPR12CA380), Aug 30, 2012: Piper PA-28-181 (N309PA), Wickenburg, AZ, substantial damage. Probable cause: The flight instructor’s delayed response in correcting the student pilot’s improper landing flare, which resulted in a hard landing.

## Other reports on N309PA (2)

Matched to the same aircraft by N-number and date.

- [Accident 20170227001139A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/20170227001139A), Feb 27, 2017: Piper PA-28-181 (N309PA), Phoenix, AZ, Substantial damage. On February 27, 2017, about 15:15 local mountain standard time, a Piper PA-28-181 (archer iii) serial number 2843508, N309PA, was departing Deer valley airport…
- [Accident 20071030827801A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/20071030827801A), Oct 30, 2007: Piper PA28181 (N309PA), Phoenix, AZ, Substantial damage. (-23) Both N309PA & N923PA were in the runup area, holding short at the end of runway 74, preparing for takeoff at dvt. The student pilot of N309PA was…

From the FAA Accident/Incident Data System. Reports are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model. For accidents, the NTSB's own investigation is the fuller record.

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