# Incident 20130914020349I: Piper PA-44-180, Phoenix, AZ, September 14, 2013

- Type: FAA incident report (Accident/Incident Data System), as reported
- Date: September 14, 2013, 18:00 local time
- Place: Phoenix, AZ
- Airport: Deer Valley Airport
- Damage: No damage
- Phase of flight: Descent
- Operating rules: Pilot school (Part 141)
- Operator: FQAS
- Location: 33.4484° N, 112.0740° W: Placed by OpenAirDocs: center of Phoenix, AZ, within about 13 miles (OpenAirDocs)
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=33.4484&lon=-112.0740&mi=10
- Aircraft: N316PA, registered now (https://openairdocs.org/aircraft/N316PA) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry model: Piper PA-44-180 (registry code 7104402, https://openairdocs.org/model/piper-pa-44-180) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry engine: Lycoming O-360 series (registry code 41575, https://openairdocs.org/engine/lycoming-o-360-series) (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: PIPER PA-44-180
- Reported engine: LYCOMING O-360 SERIES
- People aboard: 2
- Fatal injuries: 0
- Other injuries: 0
- Pilot certificates: Commercial pilot, flight instructor, private pilot
- Pilot flight hours: 940 total, 300 in this make and model, 190 in the last 90 days
- FAA source: FAA Aviation Safety Information Portal (https://asip.faa.gov/)
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/incident/20130914020349I

## Narrative

As the FAA filed it, in capitals; the FAA replaces private details with ^PRIVACY DATA OMITTED^.

CFI CONDUCTED A SIMULATED ENGINE FAILURE. STUDENT SECURED THE SIMULATED ENGINE OUT PER THE CHECKLIST, WHEN HE BROUGHT THE ENGINE BACK TO NORMAL OPERATION HE TURNED OFF THE GOOD ALTERNATOR INSTEAD OF TURNING ON THE ONE THAT WAS OFF. THIS LEFT BOTH ALTERNATORS OFF. CFI DID NOT NOTICE UNTIL BATTERY WAS DRAINED, TURNING THEM BOTH ON DID NOT RESTORE POWER. THEY LANDED AT DVT BY LIGHT GUN SIGNALS WITHOUT INCIDENT.

## Other reports on N316PA (1)

Matched to the same aircraft by N-number and date.

- [Accident 20110904022549A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/20110904022549A), Sep 4, 2011: Piper PA-44-180 (N316PA), Phoenix, AZ, Minor damage. On September 4, 2011, aircraft N316PA was performing touch and goes with instructor pilot [privacy data omitted] and student pilot [privacy data omitted].…

From the FAA Accident/Incident Data System. Reports are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model. For accidents, the NTSB's own investigation is the fuller record.

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