# Accident 20130922021289A: Dehavilland TIGER MOTH DH 82A, Red Hook, NY, September 22, 2013 - Type: FAA accident report (Accident/Incident Data System), as reported - Date: September 22, 2013, 15:15 local time - Place: Red Hook, NY - Airport: Old Rhinebeck Aerodrome - Damage: Substantial damage - Phase of flight: Cruise/Level Flight - Operating rules: General operating rules (Part 91) - Location: 41.9697° N, 73.8644° W: From the FAA - Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=41.9697&lon=-73.8644&mi=10 - Aircraft: N9410, registered now (https://openairdocs.org/aircraft/N9410) (OpenAirDocs) - Registry model: Dehavilland TIGER MOTH DH 82A (registry code 2801002, https://openairdocs.org/model/dehavilland-tiger-moth-dh-82a) (OpenAirDocs) - Registry engine: Dehav ENG GIPSY MAJOR (registry code 20004, https://openairdocs.org/engine/dehav-eng-gipsy-major) (OpenAirDocs) - Reported make and model: DEHAVILLAND TIGER MOTH DH 82A - Reported engine: DEHAV ENG GIPSY MAJOR - People aboard: 1 - Fatal injuries: 0 - Other injuries: 0 - Pilot certificates: Commercial pilot - Pilot flight hours: 2,200 total, 800 in this make and model, 15 in the last 90 days - NTSB investigation: [NTSB ERA13LA429](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/ERA13LA429) (OpenAirDocs) - FAA source: FAA Aviation Safety Information Portal (https://asip.faa.gov/) - Page: https://openairdocs.org/incident/20130922021289A ## Narrative As the FAA filed it, in capitals; the FAA replaces private details with ^PRIVACY DATA OMITTED^. ON 09/22/2013 AT 1915Z A DH82A, TIGER MOTH, N9410, WAS PARTICIPATING IN THE OLD RHINEBECK AERODROME AIRSHOW WHEN THE ENGINE STARTED TO BACKFIRE AND LOSE POWER. IN A WRITTEN STATEMENT THE PILOT, WHO WAS IDENTIFIED AS ^PRIVACY DATA OMITTED^, STATED, "I WAS AT THE NORTH END OF THE AIRPORT AT ABOUT 400 FEET ALTITUDE WHEN THE ENGINE STARTED TO BACKFIRE AND LOSE POWER. DURING TWO SEPARATE INSTANCES ABOUT FIFTEEN SECONDS APART THE ENGINE COMPLETELY LOST POWER, REGAINED POWER, AND LOST POWER AGAIN WITH SUBSEQUENT BACKFIRING. MY PRIMARY CONCERN WAS TO GET BACK TO THE RUNWAY. I WAS ABLE TO GET BACK TO THE FIELD BUT IT WAS A DOWNWIND LANDING WITHOUT POWER AND THE WIND WAS STRONG. I SLIPPED THE AIRPLANE TO LOSE ALTITUDE QUICKLY (TALL TREES AT THE NORTH END) GOT IT OVER THE RUNWAY AND PROCEEDED TO MAKE A NORMAL LANDING. UNFORTUNATELY THE WIND KEPT PUSHING THE AIRCRAFT AND AS I GOT TO THE EXTREME SOUTH END I RAN OUT OF ROOM. RATHER THAN RISK PROCEEDING ON TO STONE CHURCH RD. WITH THE POSSIBILITY OF COLLIDING WITH A MOTOR VEHICLE OR PEDESTRIAN I DECIDED TO DIRECT THE AIRCRAFT INTO THE SMALL TREES AND BRUSH ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE RUNWAY. THE AIRCRAFT CAME TO AN ABRUPT STOP AND I EXITED THE AIRCRAFT UNINJURED." ON 09/26/2013 AN ENGINE INSPECTION WAS PERFORMED. THERE WERE NO VISIBLE RESTRICTIONS TO THE AIR INDUCTION SYSTEM. PRIOR TO THE SPARK PLUGS BEING REMOVED THE IGNITION LEADS WERE VERIFIED SECURE AND SPARK WAS CONFIRMED FOR ALL CYLINDERS. THE PROPELLER WAS ROTATED AND CRANKSHAFT, CAMSHAFT, AND VALVE TRAIN CONTINUITY WAS DETERMINED. THE FUEL SYSTEM WAS INSPECTED AND THERE WERE NO DISCREPANCIES NOTED. THE ENGINE WAS BRIEFLY STARTED AND IMMEDIATELY SHUT DOWN DUE TO A CRACKED ENGINE MOUNT. THE PILOT STATED THAT THIS AIRCRAFT DOES NOT HAVE CARBURETOR HEAT AND SUGGESTED THE POSSIBILITY OF CARB ICING. THE INSPECTION WAS INCONCLUSIVE AND THE OWNER WILL NOTIFY THE FSDO WHEN THE ENGINE CAN BE SAFELY RUN-UP. THIS REPORT WILL BE UPDATED AT THAT TIME. ## The NTSB's investigation of this event (1) From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model. - [NTSB ERA13LA429](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/ERA13LA429), Sep 22, 2013: De Havilland DH 82A (N9410), Rhinebeck, NY, substantial damage. Probable cause: The total loss of engine power for reasons that could not be determined because postaccident examinations revealed no anomalies that would have precluded normal operation, which resulted in a forced… ## Other reports on N9410 (2) Matched to the same aircraft by N-number and date. - [Accident 20151212022919A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/20151212022919A), Dec 12, 2015: Dehavilland TIGER MOTH DH 82A (N9410), Clintondale, NY, Substantial damage. On December 12, 2015 at approximately 11:50 am N9410 a Dehavilland tiger moth DH82A serial number DE-941 departed from old orchard air park(2NK9) in the town… - [Incident 19920817035932I](https://openairdocs.org/incident/19920817035932I), Aug 17, 1992: Dhavxx DH82AROBRTSN (N9410), Dansville, NY, Minor damage. Pilot struck a Cessna 150 that was holding on taxiway. From the FAA Accident/Incident Data System. Reports are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model. For accidents, the NTSB's own investigation is the fuller record. --- OpenAirDocs.org is an independent research project of [Contrail Labs](https://contraillabs.com/). It is not affiliated with the FAA or the NTSB. Source documents are U.S. government works in the public domain.