# Accident 20150827023489A: Piper PA-25-260, Llano, CA, August 27, 2015

- Type: FAA accident report (Accident/Incident Data System), as reported
- Date: August 27, 2015, 12:12 local time
- Place: Llano, CA
- Airport: Crystal
- Damage: Destroyed
- Phase of flight: Landing: Approach
- Operating rules: General operating rules (Part 91)
- Location: 34.4831° N, 117.8358° W: From the FAA
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=34.4831&lon=-117.8358&mi=10
- Aircraft: N4369Y, a cancelled registration (https://openairdocs.org/deregistered/N4369Y-2017-03-09) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry model: Piper PA-25-260 (registry code 7102508, https://openairdocs.org/model/piper-pa-25-260) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry engine: Lycoming 0-540 series (registry code 41532, https://openairdocs.org/engine/lycoming-0-540-series) (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: PIPER PA-25-260
- Reported engine: LYCOMING 0-540 SERIES
- People aboard: 1
- Fatal injuries: 1
- Other injuries: 0
- Pilot certificates: Airline transport, flight instructor
- Pilot flight hours: 13,700 total
- NTSB investigation: [NTSB WPR15FA250](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/WPR15FA250) (OpenAirDocs)
- FAA source: FAA Aviation Safety Information Portal (https://asip.faa.gov/)
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/incident/20150827023489A

## Narrative

As the FAA filed it, in capitals; the FAA replaces private details with ^PRIVACY DATA OMITTED^.

FATAL A/C WAS GLIDER TOW-PLANE RETURNING TO AIRPORT.  A GLIDER CFI (WITNESS), STATED THAT GLIDERS TYPICALLY LANDED ON RWY 25 (RT TRAFFIC) AND THE TOW-PLANE LANDED RWY 07 (RT TRAFFIC).  IF WINDS WERE MORE THAN LIGHT AND VARIABLE, THE TOW-PLANE WOULD LAND RWY 25, LEFT TRAFFIC (TOW-PLANE ALWAYS REMAINING SOUTH OF RWY 07/25). ON THIS LAST FLIGHT THE CFI OBSERVED THE TOW-PLANE OVERSHOOT FINAL FOR RWY 07 TO THE NORTH SIDE OF RWY 07, THEN MAKE A STEEP RIGHT TURN BACK TOWARD THE SOUTH.  THE CFI ESTIMATES THAT THE TOW-PLANE WAS AT 300' ABOVE GROUND, OR LESS, AND ANGLE OF BANK 70 DEGREES OR MORE.  THE CFI STATED THAT THE FLIGHT MANEUVER OBSERVED WAS NOT TYPICAL OF THIS PILOT.  THE CFI DID NOT SEE THE ACCIDENT IMPACT, BUT SENSED SOMETHING WAS VERY WRONG.

## The NTSB's investigation of this event (1)

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

- [NTSB WPR15FA250](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/WPR15FA250), Aug 27, 2015: Piper PA 25 (N4369Y), Llano, CA, substantial damage, 1 fatal. Probable cause: The pilot's loss of airplane control during the landing approach due to an incapacitating medical event.

## Other reports on N4369Y (1)

Matched to the same aircraft by N-number and date.

- [Incident 20060323014869I](https://openairdocs.org/incident/20060323014869I), Mar 23, 2006: Piper PA25260 (N4369Y), Lliano, CA, Minor damage. (-23) After takeoff the pilot reported to the aircraft in tow that he was losing engine power. At this point, the pilot of the tow aircraft released the…

From the FAA Accident/Incident Data System. Reports are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model. For accidents, the NTSB's own investigation is the fuller record.

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