# Accident 20150903019879A: Piper PA-28-161, Santee, CA, September 3, 2015

- Type: FAA accident report (Accident/Incident Data System), as reported
- Date: September 3, 2015, 09:17 local time
- Place: Santee, CA
- Airport: San Diego - Gillespie
- Damage: Destroyed
- Phase of flight: Takeoff: Climb Out
- Operating rules: General operating rules (Part 91)
- Location: 32.8294° N, 116.9886° W: From the FAA
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=32.8294&lon=-116.9886&mi=10
- Aircraft: N8441B, a cancelled registration (https://openairdocs.org/deregistered/N8441B-2018-03-07) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry model: Piper PA-28-161 (registry code 7102803, https://openairdocs.org/model/piper-pa-28-161) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry engine: Lycoming 0-320 series (registry code 41508, https://openairdocs.org/engine/lycoming-0-320-series) (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: PIPER PA-28-161
- Reported engine: LYCOMING O-320-D3G
- People aboard: 2
- Fatal injuries: 2
- Other injuries: 0
- Pilot certificates: Commercial pilot, flight instructor
- Pilot flight hours: 162 in this make and model
- NTSB investigation: [NTSB WPR15FA256](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/WPR15FA256) (OpenAirDocs)
- FAA source: FAA Aviation Safety Information Portal (https://asip.faa.gov/)
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/incident/20150903019879A

## Narrative

As the FAA filed it, in capitals; the FAA replaces private details with ^PRIVACY DATA OMITTED^.

THE PILOT OF THE AIRCRAFT WAS A FLIGHT INSTRUCTOR CONDUCTING FLIGHT INSTRUCTION WITH A STUDENT.  THE AIRCRAFT WAS CLIMBING OUT AFTER THEIR SECOND TOUCH-AND-GO WHEN IT BEGAN A STEEP DESCENDING TURN TO THE LEFT ENDING AFTER HITTING THE ROOF OF A HOUSE AND IMPACT WITH THE EARTH.  BOTH OCCUPANTS DIED AS A RESULT OF THE ACCIDENT.  INITIAL INVESTIGATION INDICATES THAT THE ENGINE WAS NOT RUNNING AT THE TIME OF IMPACT.  THE NTSB HAD THE WRECKAGE TRANSPORTED TO A STORAGE FACILITY IN PHEONIX, AZ.  ON JANUARY 14, 2016, NTSB ADVISED FAA IIC THAT THE ENGINE TEARDOWN WAS COMPLETED (IN NOVEMBER?) AND THAT THE LEFT MAGNETO COULD NOT BE FOUND.  SHE STATED THAT RIGHT MAGNETO "HAS AN ISSUE," BUT ALSO STATED THAT, "OTHER THAN THAT, NOTHING WRONG WITH THE ENGINE."  ^PRIVACY DATA OMITTED^

## The NTSB's investigation of this event (1)

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

- [NTSB WPR15FA256](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/WPR15FA256), Sep 3, 2015: Piper PA28 (N8441B), Santee, CA, substantial damage, 2 fatal. Probable cause: The pilots' failure to maintain airplane control following a partial loss of engine power after takeoff, which resulted in an aerodynamic stall. Contributing to the accident was the partial loss of…

From the FAA Accident/Incident Data System. Reports are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model. For accidents, the NTSB's own investigation is the fuller record.

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