# Accident 20161006019899A: Piper PA-17, Keene, NY, October 6, 2016

- Type: FAA accident report (Accident/Incident Data System), as reported
- Date: October 6, 2016, 15:30 local time
- Place: Keene, NY
- Airport: Marcy Field
- Damage: Substantial damage
- Phase of flight: Ground/Ramp/Ma
- Operating rules: General operating rules (Part 91)
- Location: 44.2211° N, 73.7875° W: From the FAA
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=44.2211&lon=-73.7875&mi=10
- Aircraft: N4584H, registered now (https://openairdocs.org/aircraft/N4584H) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry model: Piper PA-17 (registry code 7101702, https://openairdocs.org/model/piper-pa-17) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry engine: Continental A&C65 series (registry code 17003, https://openairdocs.org/engine/continental-a-c65-series) (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: PIPER PA-17
- Reported engine: CONT MOTOR A&C65 SERIES
- People aboard: 1
- Fatal injuries: 0
- Other injuries: 0
- Pilot certificates: Airline transport
- Pilot flight hours: 8,964 total, 5 in this make and model, 5 in the last 90 days
- NTSB investigation: [NTSB GAA17CA017](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/GAA17CA017) (OpenAirDocs)
- FAA source: FAA Aviation Safety Information Portal (https://asip.faa.gov/)
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/incident/20161006019899A

## Narrative

As the FAA filed it, in capitals; the FAA replaces private details with ^PRIVACY DATA OMITTED^.

ON 10/07/2016 THE ALBANY FSDO WAS CONTACTED ABOUT AN INCIDENT INVOLVING A PIPER PA-17 VAGABOND AIRCRAFT.  THE AIRCRAFT HAD LANDED AT MARCY FIELD (1I1)IN KEENE, NY.  THE OPERATOR INTENDED TO TAKE OFF FROM MARCY FIELD AND FLY AROUND THE AREA.  UPON HAND PROPPING THE AIRCRAFT, THE ENGINE STARTED AND WENT TO A HIGHER THAN DESIRED RPM.  THE AIRCRAFT BEGAN MOVING UNOCCUPIED AND THE OPERATOR ATTEMPTED TO STOP THE AIRCRAFT BY HOLDING ONTO THE RIGHT WING STRUT.  WHILE HOLDING THE WING STRUT THE AIRCRAFT BEGAN TURNING AND THE OPERATOR WAS UNABLE TO HOLD ON.  THE AIRCRAFT TAXIED ACROSS THE GRASS STRIP UNOCCUPIED AND INTO A WOODED AREA RESULTING IN SUBSTANTIAL DAMAGE.  THE WINGS WERE BOTH BENT REARWARD ALONG THE FUSELAGE AND THE ENGINE WAS STOPPED WITH THE PROPELLER CONTACTING TREES AND BRUSH.

## The NTSB's investigation of this event (1)

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

- [NTSB GAA17CA017](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/GAA17CA017), Oct 6, 2016: Piper PA 17 (N4584H), Keene Valley, NY, substantial damage. Probable cause: The pilot's failure to use the proper hand propping procedures, resulting in a runaway airplane and an impact with trees.

## Other reports on N4584H (1)

Matched to the same aircraft by N-number and date.

- [Incident 19930302006359I](https://openairdocs.org/incident/19930302006359I), Mar 2, 1993: Piper PA17 (N4584H), Glen Arm, MD, Minor damage. Engine lost power and stopped. Forced landing in field. Left gear collapsed. Suspect carburator ice.

From the FAA Accident/Incident Data System. Reports are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model. For accidents, the NTSB's own investigation is the fuller record.

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