# Accident 20170729010179A: Cessna 172N, Big Bear City, CA, July 29, 2017

- Type: FAA accident report (Accident/Incident Data System), as reported
- Date: July 29, 2017, 14:00 local time
- Place: Big Bear City, CA
- Airport: Big Bear City
- Damage: Substantial damage
- Phase of flight: Takeoff: Climb Out
- Operating rules: General operating rules (Part 91)
- Location: 34.2525° N, 116.8489° W: From the FAA
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=34.2525&lon=-116.8489&mi=10
- Aircraft: N5381J, a cancelled registration (https://openairdocs.org/deregistered/N5381J-2020-09-15) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry model: Cessna 172N (registry code 2072434, https://openairdocs.org/model/cessna-172n) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry engine: Lycoming 0-320 series (registry code 41508, https://openairdocs.org/engine/lycoming-0-320-series) (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: CESSNA 172N
- Reported engine: LYCOMING 0-320 SERIES
- People aboard: 2
- Fatal injuries: 2
- Other injuries: 0
- Pilot certificates: Commercial pilot
- Pilot flight hours: 225 total, 13 in this make and model, 10 in the last 90 days
- NTSB investigation: [NTSB WPR17FA171](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/WPR17FA171) (OpenAirDocs)
- FAA source: FAA Aviation Safety Information Portal (https://asip.faa.gov/)
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/incident/20170729010179A

## Narrative

As the FAA filed it, in capitals; the FAA replaces private details with ^PRIVACY DATA OMITTED^.

ON JULY 29, 2017 ABOUT 1420 PACIFIC DAYLIGHT TIME,  THE AIRCRAFT DEPARTED FROM BIG BEAR CITY AIRPORT (L35) HEADING TO APPLE VALLEY AIRPORT (AVP). THE FLIGHT WAS CONDUCTED UNDER 14 CFR PART 91. VISUAL METEORLOGICAL CONDITIONS PREVAILED AND NO FLIGHT PLAN WAS FILED.  ON TAKEOFF THE AIRCRAFT MADE A RIGHT CROSSWIND TURN AND TRANSITIONTED DOWNWIND. DURING THIS PHASE OF FLIGHT THE AIRCRAFT APPEARS TO HAVE STALLED CAUSING IT TO CRASH 1/2 MILE SOUTH OF THE AIRPORT.  BOTH THE PILOT AND PASSENGER SUSTAINED FATAL INJURIES IN THE ACCIDENT.

## The NTSB's investigation of this event (1)

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

- [NTSB WPR17FA171](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/WPR17FA171), Jul 29, 2017: Cessna 172N (N5381J), Big Bear, CA, substantial damage, 2 fatal. Probable cause: The pilot's exceedance of the airplane's critical angle of attack during takeoff in high density altitude conditions, which resulted in an aerodynamic stall, loss of control, and subsequent impact…

From the FAA Accident/Incident Data System. Reports are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model. For accidents, the NTSB's own investigation is the fuller record.

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