# Incident 20170929016589I: Piper PA-44-180, Madras, OR, September 29, 2017

- Type: FAA incident report (Accident/Incident Data System), as reported
- Date: September 29, 2017, 11:00 local time
- Place: Madras, OR
- Airport: Madras Municipal
- Damage: Minor damage
- Phase of flight: Landing: Touchdown
- Operating rules: Pilot school (Part 141)
- Operator: 5HAS
- Location: 44.6702° N, 121.1551° W: Placed by OpenAirDocs at MADRAS MUNI (S33), within about a mile (OpenAirDocs)
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=44.6702&lon=-121.1551&mi=10
- Aircraft: N28721, a cancelled registration (https://openairdocs.org/deregistered/N28721-2019-04-18) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry model: Piper PA-44-180 (registry code 7104402, https://openairdocs.org/model/piper-pa-44-180) (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: PIPER PA-44-180
- People aboard: 2
- Fatal injuries: 0
- Other injuries: 0
- Pilot certificates: Commercial pilot, flight instructor, private pilot
- Pilot flight hours: 475 total, 220 in this make and model, 50 in the last 90 days
- FAA source: FAA Aviation Safety Information Portal (https://asip.faa.gov/)
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/incident/20170929016589I

## Narrative

As the FAA filed it, in capitals; the FAA replaces private details with ^PRIVACY DATA OMITTED^.

STUDENT PRACTICING SINGLE ENGINE APPROACHES. STUDENT DELAYED GEAR EXTENSION ON DOWNWIND. ON BASE STUDENT DECIDED TO PUT FLAPS IN. INSTRUCTOR BEGAN A LENGTHY EXPLANATION AS TO WHY THIS WAS A BAD DECISION. THIS CONTINUED ONTO FINAL WHERE OTHER CHECKS WERE NOT ACCOMPLISHED BECAUSE INSTRUCTOR WAS STILL TALKING. THEY FAILED TO HEAR HORN, THEY FAILED TO DO SHORT FINALCHECK. LANDED GEAR UP

## Other reports on N28721 (1)

Matched to the same aircraft by N-number and date.

- [Incident 20151001016239I](https://openairdocs.org/incident/20151001016239I), Oct 1, 2015: Piper PA-44-180 (N28721), Hillsboro, OR, Minor damage. After takeoff from hio the student pilot who was not qulified/endorsed for multi-engine moved the landing gear handle and retracted the landing gear. The…

From the FAA Accident/Incident Data System. Reports are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model. For accidents, the NTSB's own investigation is the fuller record.

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