# Accident 20180911016259A: Piper PA-34-200, Ochopee, FL, September 11, 2018

- Type: FAA accident report (Accident/Incident Data System), as reported
- Date: September 11, 2018, 10:30 local time
- Place: Ochopee, FL
- Airport: Dade-Collier Training And Tran
- Damage: Substantial damage
- Phase of flight: Landing: Approach
- Operating rules: Pilot school (Part 141)
- Operator: 1WLS
- Location: 25.8619° N, 80.8969° W: From the FAA
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=25.8619&lon=-80.8969&mi=10
- Aircraft: N88AG, a cancelled registration (https://openairdocs.org/deregistered/N88AG-2025-12-08) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry model: Piper PA-34-200 (registry code 7103405, https://openairdocs.org/model/piper-pa-34-200) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry engine: Lycoming I0360 series (registry code 41515, https://openairdocs.org/engine/lycoming-i0360-series) (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: PIPER PA-34-200
- Reported engine: LYCOMING I0360 SER
- People aboard: 2
- Fatal injuries: 0
- Other injuries: 0
- Pilot certificates: Airline transport, flight instructor
- Pilot flight hours: 28,000 total, 600 in this make and model, 90 in the last 90 days
- NTSB investigation: [NTSB GAA18CA559](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/GAA18CA559) (OpenAirDocs)
- FAA source: FAA Aviation Safety Information Portal (https://asip.faa.gov/)
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/incident/20180911016259A

## Narrative

As the FAA filed it, in capitals; the FAA replaces private details with ^PRIVACY DATA OMITTED^.

PART 141 OPERATION, OPERATED BY AMERICAN FLIGHT TRAINING LLC AND OWNED BY MY WAY AVIATION LLC WESTON FLORIDA, PIPER PA-34-200, N88AG, AND SERIAL NUMBER: 34-7450093. AIRCRAFT WITH CFI AND PILOT ON BOARD PREFORMING SIMULATED ENGINE OUT SITUATION LOSING CONTROL OF AIRCRAFT LANDING HARD ON RUNWAY 9 AND RUNNING OFF THE EDGE OF RUNWAY COMING TO A STOP IN A RETENTION POND IN WATER, CFI AND PILOT ON BOARD UNINJURED.

## The NTSB's investigation of this event (1)

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

- [NTSB GAA18CA559](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/GAA18CA559), Sep 11, 2018: Piper PA34 (N88AG), Miami, FL, substantial damage. Probable cause: The pilot under instruction’s failure to maintain the twin-engine airplane’s minimum control airspeed with one engine inoperative and the flight instructor’s distraction when reconfiguring the…

## Other reports on N88AG (3)

Matched to the same aircraft by N-number and date.

- [Incident 20190921016029I](https://openairdocs.org/incident/20190921016029I), Sep 21, 2019: Piper PA-34-200 (N88AG), Opalocka, FL, Minor damage. A part 141 flight operated by wayman aviation (1WLS) landed and the nose gear collapsed. Aircraft accident/incident preliminary notice description: N88AG was…
- [Incident 20140524008989I](https://openairdocs.org/incident/20140524008989I), May 24, 2014: Piper PA-34-200 (N88AG), St. Petersburg, FL, Minor damage. Right gear collapsed after landing during rollout.
- [Incident 19911019052409I](https://openairdocs.org/incident/19911019052409I), Oct 19, 1991: Piper PA34200 (N88AG), Lansing, WV. Pilot lost directional control on landing rollout. Departed runway. Left gear collapsed.

From the FAA Accident/Incident Data System. Reports are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model. For accidents, the NTSB's own investigation is the fuller record.

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